In a series of recent articles, David Goldman has argued that the United States needs to respond to the Chinese technological challenge by focusing university financial support on STEM (science, technology, engineering and mathematics) and utilizing its national and industrial research laboratories to provide the innovation necessary to maintain industrial competitiveness.
He asks us to look back to US president Dwight D Eisenhower’s response to Sputnik in the 1950s and president Ronald Reagan’s response to the Soviet military challenge that arose in the 1970s. On the flip side, one might look back at the failure of the British to renovate their industrial base during the 1950s.
Unfortunately, there is a critical difference between the current situation and that faced by Eisenhower and his successor John F Kennedy: America’s engineering capacity has declined. Both education and research are at a lower level, and we have very few good US students.
On top of that, the people running the funding agencies and universities are, for the most part, not mathematically adept. There are good researchers, but they are buried in a sea of mediocrity, and are forced to do low-quality work in order to obtain funding. Fundamental research is frowned upon while computer-generated visualizations and unvalidated algorithms abound.
To make up for the poor education we Americans give to our own children, we have been bringing in huge numbers of foreign (mostly Asian) international students to fill our graduate programs
The essential problem is that the quality of mathematical education in the US has been declining for half a century. This decline now affects the entire scientific and engineering enterprise. To make up for the poor education we Americans give to our own children, we have been bringing in huge numbers of foreign (mostly Asian) international students to fill our graduate programs (81% of graduate students in electrical engineering are foreign). Some go on to be our leading faculty and researchers.
Yet while these students often arrive with excellent mathematical training, certainly superior to what they would get in our universities, they then must suffer through our graduate education, which is mathematically inferior to what they would have encountered in 1965.
Because scientific knowledge involves relations between quantitative variables, it is framed in mathematical formulae. By carrying a big mathematical toolbox, a scientist or engineer enhances his ability to construct scientific theories.
Given that the systems we work with today are more complex and are beset by greater uncertainty in their behavior than those studied 50 years ago (one might think of a human cell), a scientist or engineer should possess a greater knowledge of mathematics than his counterpart back then; however, he will likely possess substantially less.
The great breakthrough in engineering came in the 1930s and 1940s, led by the work of Andrey Kolmogorov in the Soviet Union and Norbert Wiener in the United States. They developed the understanding that to control a physical system, the best approach is to model the system mathematically and then analyze the system to determine the optimal method of control.
This work had immediate application in World War II. The mathematics necessary for this modern engineering developed rapidly through the 1950s and was required for graduate engineering students in good programs.
This requirement has been dropped in most of today’s American universities. Instead, engineers are groping around trying to find solutions by playing with a computer. On the other hand, in Iran, students are required to study the relevant mathematics at the undergraduate level. As a nation, we have, with forethought, decided that our children should have inferior educations to Iranian and Chinese children.
According to Goldman, 7% of American undergraduates study engineering, as opposed to approximately 30% in China. Now factor in that China’s population is five times the size of the US population, and one gets an ominous view of the future.
One might argue that many of China’s youth lack the opportunities to develop their abilities. Yes, but what about American youth? According to Pew Research, a survey of members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science found that 16% think that US kindergarten-through-Grade 12 STEM education is above average, whereas 46% think it is below average. Surely, a student who lacks an above-average mathematical education is not a candidate for engineering.
This brings me back to Goldman’s recommendation for rebuilding corporate research to emulate the great labs of the 1950s and 1960s, such as Bell Laboratories. Excellent suggestion! But they will have to be staffed by Chinese, Indians and Iranians. Given the effort by Asian governments to lure their best citizens back home, this is an unstable situation.
Here is the choice before a top Asian PhD graduate in engineering: (1) remain in the US, spend two to five years as a postdoctoral researcher at a subsistence salary, then apply for one of the few available good faculty positions, and, if fortunate, go through a six-year probationary period writing grant proposals in the hope of getting tenure; (2) return to a faculty position at a top university at home, with funding to start your own laboratory and to support students.
If we are going to depend on Asian talent, then we must keep the best here in the US, whatever the cost.
We are a wealthy people because we have dominated the world technologically since World War II. This was in part a result of winning the war, but it was also due to good leadership, in particular, presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy.
Every student should watch Kennedy’s speech at Rice University when he announced the program to go to the moon by the end of the decade. We had to be there before the Russians. Many scoffed, but it was done. Goldman wants to see that spirit again. I concur. But Kennedy had a major advantage: an abundance of mathematically educated scientists engineers, and a leadership mentality to bring that talent together to accomplish one of the greatest achievements in human history.
In the short run, the US federal government should fund high-quality institutes with sufficient incentives, both in terms of research infrastructure and salary, to attract the best scientists and engineers that we currently have, get them out of the clutches of administrative hacks, and let them address the fundamental problems of our day. Not one second of their time should be spent on fundraising or useless paperwork generated by the bureaucracy.
This will require that a small group of excellent researchers, be identified and full authority handed over to them – no easy task.
What about our big-name corporate labs? The answer is easy. Compare the mathematics training of their researchers with that of the scientists and engineers at Bell Laboratories in 1960.
In the long run, the situation can be remedied only if enormous political and financial pressure is brought to bear on university leaders to force them to unload the current bloated, incompetent administrations and replace them with people of the same scientific caliber and temperament as those running the top universities when Sputnik was launched. But this will do no good unless K-through-12 is revamped.
Overall it is a matter of will. Can the United States be forged into a force to sustain its technological and economic vitality, no matter the sacrifice? This question calls to mind Kennedy’s famous line from his inaugural address: “Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.”
Are those charged with the responsibility for our scientific educational and research capacity morally capable of answering Kennedy’s call?
The best way is to fill up all available University positions in research and science with plentiful Indic minds.
The best way is to fill up all available University positions in research and science with plentiful Indic minds.
That is blunt. No sugarcoating. Just what you expect from an engineer.
That is blunt. No sugarcoating. Just what you expect from an engineer.
For an answer to the main question you are asking, just take a look at your present government and it`s leadership? All science denying, all mathematically ignorant, all creationists, all believing in end times comingsoon, all pretty much bible thumping , all ignoring the state of the union ( the real state of the Union) and living in their own hubristic bubble. And of course, last but not least all, corrupt to the core.
The US should have a new motto and that motto if real ,and reflecting what the US stands for, would be ( Anything for short term gain). China is eating and will continue to eat America`s lunch. They are focused on what makes a difference in the life of nations. Oh well the USA still has dancing with the stars, abortion rights and LGBT rights. The war the US is currently trying to start with Russia and China will settle the Issue once and for all and I believe with all my soul that it won`t be settled in the way the Beltway warriors think it is going to be settled.
For an answer to the main question you are asking, just take a look at your present government and it`s leadership? All science denying, all mathematically ignorant, all creationists, all believing in end times comingsoon, all pretty much bible thumping , all ignoring the state of the union ( the real state of the Union) and living in their own hubristic bubble. And of course, last but not least all, corrupt to the core.
The US should have a new motto and that motto if real ,and reflecting what the US stands for, would be ( Anything for short term gain). China is eating and will continue to eat America`s lunch. They are focused on what makes a difference in the life of nations. Oh well the USA still has dancing with the stars, abortion rights and LGBT rights. The war the US is currently trying to start with Russia and China will settle the Issue once and for all and I believe with all my soul that it won`t be settled in the way the Beltway warriors think it is going to be settled.
America is interested only in making money but not in educating the children. Keep on polluting with coal and other toxins to make money & killing the brain. Jesus school of Betsy is the problem.
America is interested only in making money but not in educating the children. Keep on polluting with coal and other toxins to make money & killing the brain. Jesus school of Betsy is the problem.
The US is slowly closing its door to foreign students, scarce that its IP and technology will be stolen.
The US is slowly closing its door to foreign students, scarce that its IP and technology will be stolen.
USA can not compete in STEM simply because the American school system is producing youth that can neither read nor count. The universities are fed mostly from offshore. Let me illustrate the American dilemma with two recent episodes.
This June I met an old English colleague who 30 years ago had left Canada to teach university in Buffalo NY. There was much to catch up after 25 years.
"So how is it going"?
"I do not enjoy teaching anymore. Students simply do not get what I teach. So I concentrate on the handful of foreign (read Arab) students. And we are starting a ‘remedial reading’ for our engineering grad students from next year (academic, i.e this September)".
"Remedial reading for grads? How come they got their engineering batcholer degrees in the first place if they can not comprehend what they read"?
"We pushed them through".
The US education has become an industry. You pay your hefty fees, we give you a piece of paper without giving you an education.
The second is even more telling. Last month on business I rented a suite in F/11, an upscale Islamabad Pakistan area. The warm weather was an invitation for a breakfast in an open air joint popular with foreigners.
25 large tables were served by some 3-4 waiters who from their looks and dresses seemed to have done little schooling.
Once a patron finished his meal he would go to the lone cashier where his waiter would shout out the take – 120 Rs, 270 Rs, etc. This 16-17 year old knew that 2 eggs @30, potatoes 25, tea 35 adds up to 120.
In the US/Canada, no kid of same age at POS can accomplish this feat without a calculator, forcing me to infer that an average unschooled youth in Pakistan was more educated than an American of the same age.
Of course US can turn the tide. But with uneducated, unskilled, unemployable Trump Nation such is not possible for next 2 or 6 years. Add another 12 years of school cycle that makes at least 20 years, or a generation before US can hope for a turnaround.
After WWII Asia invested in education and is reaping rewards. US can learn to ape.
USA can not compete in STEM simply because the American school system is producing youth that can neither read nor count. The universities are fed mostly from offshore. Let me illustrate the American dilemma with two recent episodes.
This June I met an old English colleague who 30 years ago had left Canada to teach university in Buffalo NY. There was much to catch up after 25 years.
"So how is it going"?
"I do not enjoy teaching anymore. Students simply do not get what I teach. So I concentrate on the handful of foreign (read Arab) students. And we are starting a ‘remedial reading’ for our engineering grad students from next year (academic, i.e this September)".
"Remedial reading for grads? How come they got their engineering batcholer degrees in the first place if they can not comprehend what they read"?
"We pushed them through".
The US education has become an industry. You pay your hefty fees, we give you a piece of paper without giving you an education.
The second is even more telling. Last month on business I rented a suite in F/11, an upscale Islamabad Pakistan area. The warm weather was an invitation for a breakfast in an open air joint popular with foreigners.
25 large tables were served by some 3-4 waiters who from their looks and dresses seemed to have done little schooling.
Once a patron finished his meal he would go to the lone cashier where his waiter would shout out the take – 120 Rs, 270 Rs, etc. This 16-17 year old knew that 2 eggs @30, potatoes 25, tea 35 adds up to 120.
In the US/Canada, no kid of same age at POS can accomplish this feat without a calculator, forcing me to infer that an average unschooled youth in Pakistan was more educated than an American of the same age.
Of course US can turn the tide. But with uneducated, unskilled, unemployable Trump Nation such is not possible for next 2 or 6 years. Add another 12 years of school cycle that makes at least 20 years, or a generation before US can hope for a turnaround.
After WWII Asia invested in education and is reaping rewards. US can learn to ape.
Despite all the s- called supremacy of Asian students, most Chinese technology is still stolen from the West, mostly America.
Despite all the s- called supremacy of Asian students, most Chinese technology is still stolen from the West, mostly America.
I think the author knows the answer to his question, and it is "not going to happen".
Remember that stealing IP is stealing from the past, if you want to outcompete with countries like China, you need to keep innovating and to do that you need competent persons. The US is now trying to keep up with the use of brute military force, and unfortunately, the Russians have outcompeted us on that also.
I think the author knows the answer to his question, and it is "not going to happen".
Remember that stealing IP is stealing from the past, if you want to outcompete with countries like China, you need to keep innovating and to do that you need competent persons. The US is now trying to keep up with the use of brute military force, and unfortunately, the Russians have outcompeted us on that also.
There is nothing to steal from America anymore. They need help from Russia even to sent astronaughts to spece nation. Most of these students are already going to Canada & Europe.
There is nothing to steal from America anymore. They need help from Russia even to sent astronaughts to spece nation. Most of these students are already going to Canada & Europe.
Ira Spot Machefsky
Without immigrant Asian engineers and scientists in Silicon Valley and research programs in US University programs there is no US technology worth stealing. As those people return home to work for their own countries the US will become a technology backwater.
Ira Spot Machefsky
Without immigrant Asian engineers and scientists in Silicon Valley and research programs in US University programs there is no US technology worth stealing. As those people return home to work for their own countries the US will become a technology backwater.
The problem for the US is that from the very top ( Trump) down it lacks discipline. Without discipline you will only do what is easy for you. That leaves out the sciences and engineering. This problem started under Reagan. The mantra that freedom trumps all might be suitable for an adult population but it does not work in grade school and the preparation of adults for the real world. That propaganda was a stab in the heart of the national well being of the USA. Now as it becomes even more racist, bigoted, uneducated, lazy and ignorant it has begun chasing away the Asian and Middle Eastern sudents, engineers and scientists that still help keep it current in the modern world. When those people stop coming to the USA, innovation, science and engineering will be a dead issue in that counry.
The problem for the US is that from the very top ( Trump) down it lacks discipline. Without discipline you will only do what is easy for you. That leaves out the sciences and engineering. This problem started under Reagan. The mantra that freedom trumps all might be suitable for an adult population but it does not work in grade school and the preparation of adults for the real world. That propaganda was a stab in the heart of the national well being of the USA. Now as it becomes even more racist, bigoted, uneducated, lazy and ignorant it has begun chasing away the Asian and Middle Eastern sudents, engineers and scientists that still help keep it current in the modern world. When those people stop coming to the USA, innovation, science and engineering will be a dead issue in that counry.
Thomas Daniel Kuhn
The problem is structural, and over 100 year old since when US replaced Europe as leading power in the West.
Education investment strategies of Europe, US, and Japan reflect their competitve strategic advantages. US, with a better land/people ratio has been for most of its history an importer of talent while Europe and Japan are net losers.
Japan stressed high school education, Europe specialized in skill based vocational colleges, but US invested heavily in industrial research and university, producing managers to lead skilled labour from around the world. Any time US needed an influx she initiated instability elsewhere – Europe, Asia, Africa and got the needed skills.
However, after Viet-Nam debacle and de-linking of $ from gold the US economy went hollow, with little investment in innovation, and both Europe and Japan and even India recovered. Now, few foreign university grads seek the US shores, and even those who come here to study return to their homelands. Since US education system never was and still does not produce youth that can read or count its universities are being starved for feed, a problem that Trump is only worsening with his anti-immigration policies. The US problem requires a change of priorities that is not going to happen soon.
Thomas Daniel Kuhn
The problem is structural, and over 100 year old since when US replaced Europe as leading power in the West.
Education investment strategies of Europe, US, and Japan reflect their competitve strategic advantages. US, with a better land/people ratio has been for most of its history an importer of talent while Europe and Japan are net losers.
Japan stressed high school education, Europe specialized in skill based vocational colleges, but US invested heavily in industrial research and university, producing managers to lead skilled labour from around the world. Any time US needed an influx she initiated instability elsewhere – Europe, Asia, Africa and got the needed skills.
However, after Viet-Nam debacle and de-linking of $ from gold the US economy went hollow, with little investment in innovation, and both Europe and Japan and even India recovered. Now, few foreign university grads seek the US shores, and even those who come here to study return to their homelands. Since US education system never was and still does not produce youth that can read or count its universities are being starved for feed, a problem that Trump is only worsening with his anti-immigration policies. The US problem requires a change of priorities that is not going to happen soon.
Ira Spot Machefsky "…most Chinese technology is still stolen from the West, mostly America."
China has hypersonic weapons, railgun weapons,…
Despite of our testing of railgun, X-15 thru X-51,… since the 1950s… we still have no hypersonic weapons, no railgun… Just look at their bridges, freeways, bulet trains,… Perhaps, it’s time for us to steal from them instead of constantly complaining that China stole from us!!!
Ira Spot Machefsky "…most Chinese technology is still stolen from the West, mostly America."
China has hypersonic weapons, railgun weapons,…
Despite of our testing of railgun, X-15 thru X-51,… since the 1950s… we still have no hypersonic weapons, no railgun… Just look at their bridges, freeways, bulet trains,… Perhaps, it’s time for us to steal from them instead of constantly complaining that China stole from us!!!
Change of the kind described in the article, will never ever happen in the US, because political correctness in the US will never ever go away. The more a person is closer to a politically incorrect category, the more such people start to be filtered out starting at kindergarten and first grade.
Change of the kind described in the article, will never ever happen in the US, because political correctness in the US will never ever go away. The more a person is closer to a politically incorrect category, the more such people start to be filtered out starting at kindergarten and first grade.
America is the granddaddy of industrial espionage, the 19th century American textile industry was ALMOST WHOLLY based on stolen British technologies.
America is the granddaddy of industrial espionage, the 19th century American textile industry was ALMOST WHOLLY based on stolen British technologies.
Bravo
Bravo