Branded a “sponsor of terrorism” by the Trump administration for failing to act against extremism, Pakistan has sought to polish its image by decreeing that only the state has the right to issue a jihad (holy war).
But now some Islamist politicians want the government to use its new powers to settle the most prickly issue in Pakistan’s fragile relationship with India: its historic claims over the contested territory of Kashmir.
The order was included in a fatwa (decree) against terrorism, entitled Paigham-e-Pakistan (“Pakistan’s message”), which the government announced on January 16 at a ceremony headed by President Mamnoon Hussain and addressed by many Islamic scholars.
Its two most significant features are the declaration that only the state can announce a jihad, and a decree that any move to impose Sharia law needs to conform with legal statutes. The fatwa seeks to address challenges in Pakistani society created by terrorism, sectarianism and religious extremism.
But quite unexpectedly, the decree has prompted calls by prominent Islamist parties for the government to formally launch a jihad in Indian-held Kashmir, as well as in Afghanistan.
Government sources close to the drafting of Paigham-e-Pakistan have confirmed that Islamist leaders are agitated over the decree and are keen to capitalize on the state’s capitulation to a Tehrik Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY)-led protest rally in Islamabad in November.
Islamist leaders are agitated over the decree and are keen to capitalize on the state’s capitulation to a Tehrik Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah (TLY)-led protest rally in Islamabad in November
“The government is already under pressure over the Khatm-e-Nabuwwat (finality of the prophethood) issue, and after the TLY dharna [sit-in], the religious groups are gaining strength and want a formal announcement of jihad,” a government official, who worked on the draft, told Asia Times. “And so the edict that was designed to counter radicalism is being misused to render it counterproductive.”
Abdur Rauf Farooqi, the Secretary General of Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam Sami (JUI-S), the political face of a prominent Taliban seminary, confirmed that the demand for a state jihad has been forwarded.
“If the fatwa has made jihad the state’s prerogative, then we demand (the) formal launch of jihad in Kashmir immediately. Because Kashmir belongs to Pakistan and has been illegally occupied by India,” he told Asia Times. “Furthermore, since the Afghanistan Taliban are engaged in jihad against (the) US and NATO occupation, Pakistan should participate in Afghan jihad as well,” Farooqi added.
Ameer-ul-Azeem of Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) agreed that Pakistan should engage in jihad to ‘‘safeguard Muslim interests’’. “Even if a formal announcement cannot be made for whatever reasons, the covert jihad that the state has been involved in should continue at full throttle.
‘Safeguarding Muslim interests’
“Also to ensure Muslim unity, there needs to be strict implementation of Islamic law, which as per Paigham-e-Pakistan is also the state’s responsibility,” Ameer-ul-Azeem said.
Amjad Khan of Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam Fazl (JUI-F), the party that has been in coalition with the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) and whose leader Fazl-ur-Rehman was closely involved in the formulation of Paigham-e-Pakistan, said that a formal launch of jihad was under consideration.
“We’ve been discussing this for a long time and have ulema (religious scholars) from all schools of thought on board,” he told Asia Times. “The state should take all the ulema (Body of Muslim scholars) on board and make the announcement.”
Meanwhile, Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD), the political wing of the banned Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), which was involved in the November 2008 Mumbai attacks, feels the Paigham-e-Pakistan decree vindicates the stance of the group and their leader Hafiz Saeed.
JuD spokesman Nadeem Awan said the group was founded on its demand for a formal announcement of a Kashmir jihad. ‘‘That has been our demand throughout. Kashmir is Pakistan’s jugular vein and the state should do whatever it takes to liberate it.
‘That has been our demand throughout. Kashmir is Pakistan’s jugular vein and the state should do whatever it takes to liberate it’
“We’ve actually contributed written literature on this front more than anyone else. Pakistan should formally announce jihad and Kashmir, and we should also support the Afghan Taliban to liberate Afghanistan from the US,” he said to Asia Times.
Referring to the Afghan Taliban, which the JUI-S openly backs with its seminary Dar Ul Uloom Haqqania, Abdur Rauf Farooqi stressed that the Pakistani state should recall its own policies from the past.
“It was our state that prepared the mujahideen for Afghan jihad, now it should follow through with that struggle,” he said.
“Not just that, since Pakistan is also an Islamic state, it should announce global jihad to liberate Muslims around the world, especially Palestine. I think that’s the part that the Saudi-led Islamic military coalition led by [former Army Chief] Raheel Sharif should play.”
Farooqi added that until the “actual causes” behind terrorism were addressed, no counter-terror fatwa would work. “These include the spread of secular ideas in society,” he maintained.
While the current Pakistan Army chief, General Qamar Javed Bajwa, has been making placatory noises, the latest move to dissociate the state from charges of supporting terrorism seems to have backfired.
The lands that make "Jammu and Kashmir" is a British construct. Carved out of the Sikh Empire after the Anglo Sikh Wars that took place between 1845 -1849, where the British East India Company won. After carving out Kashmir they placed a "Dogra" Hindu king to rule that region whos population was mostly Muslim and still remains mostly Muslim.
In that light I fully support an Independent Kashmir. An independent Kashmir would almost be the size of the United Kingdom and share borders with 3 nuclear powered nations. Her independence would help end the 70 year long detente between Pakistan and India. Kashmir will play a neutral role similar to Switzerland and have her own voice in the UN. Overall border tensions between India, Pakistan and China would diminish, while all three nations will have Embassies in Srinagar.
As a soverign nation who has found peace FDI will pour in and Kashmir will have a greater chance to emerge with a dynamic economy of her own.
Dude,get real…its far from how it is on movie than in reality.
Divide and Rule. or Divide and Leave. English specialty par excellence.
The reason why English divided India (Ireland before and ME later) was to keep their influence after they had been booted out. A punishment for asking for freedom.
English could have solved Kashmir but they intentionally chose not to. Kashmir is the English vexing finger up Indian behind for ever, will always keep India pre-occupied with security, and poor. People with internal conflict only think of survival, not of growth.
Dimwit Indians and Pakistanis do not know that they have been had. At least neighbor Pakistan is via a civil war solving its internal problems and building bridges with China and West, but India under Modi is dividing itself more and more along caste, religion, language, race, region … to the delight of the English.
Absolutely. A Kashmir for Kashmiris, not for India or Pakistan is the only answer. But neither dimwit Indians and Pakistanis will agree.
Syed Abbas,
I have Muslim and Hindu Indian as well as Pakistani friends, albeit that they are professional people. I assure you that they are not ‘dimwits’. I agree absolutely that what is happening in the Indian sub-continent has a lot to do with the consequences of British colonialism, and their ‘divide and rule’ and other stratagems to exploit and subjugate the indigenous people. But the karmic consequences can be possibly traced back to numerous other factors as well, including the invasion by the Muslim Mughals (Mongol-Persian mix) conquerors. They too ‘divided and rule’ and other things as well. Speaking in terms of anthropological theory, had there been no ‘Augrenzab Raj’, most in the sub-continent would have been Hindus in its myriad forms of different deities, to each his own preference or just go ascetic mendicant yoga. Muslims would just be the humble folks who intermarried with Arab seafarers or traders, and thus would be a ‘minority’ like Christians and Buddhists and Jains. A Muslim minority is manageable and tolerable. But a Muslim majority creates havoc with its dictates that there is only one God, and those who do not believe are infidels and Shariah law should be the universal law. Do you get the picture? Most of my educated Muslim professional friends have now leaned towards Sufism Islam and away from what they call the Islam of the uneducated maniacal masses, who cannot see beyond their noses. They are definitely not dim wit Pakistanis, I assure you. And if we’re not for the Mughals and the British, yes, quite possibly, India would remain syncretically Hindu in its myriad shapes and forms.
The relevant point here is whether the speech was in English or Urdu. If english, then what the hell, it is just a manner or figure of speech, just a modern Shakespearean aphorism or witty expression. It was and is big sexist or misogynist! But of course, if the speech was in Urdu, it was wrong, for as we all know well that things can go wrong in the translation or transliteration. Stick to Urdu metaphors in that case!
If India supports Kashmir’s independence Pakistan is isolated. Few around the world would stand in the way of Kashmir as an independent nation if India supports it.
By supporting Kashmiri Independence New Delhi can count Srinagar as an ally when Kashmir becomes independent.
In addition the detente will be gone and India saves money and personnel by a demilitarized border.
Babu Ramalingham
Babu
India’s independence remained fiction for the British for decades. The current stalemate between India and Pakistan is going nowhere while Kashmir stagnates. Time for some new thinking.
Islamists make life miserable for non-Muslims. Tragic that Germany and Western Europe accepted millions of arrogant young Muslim men over the past few years. Europe is declining with Islamization. It is becoming dirtier, more violent and uncomfortable. Thank goodness that Eastern Europe (Poland, Hungary, etc) have refused. They are still wonderfully European, clean, safe and dignified by comparison to the chaos that is growing West of them. Western liberal extremists have caused this mess in the West. Shame on them.
Michael Bagala
What India fears most is that an Independent Kashmir will fall in China’s sphere of influence being on the NRI/New Silk Road.
Pakistan has little fear of Kashmir being allied with India, but may have a concern that in an Independent Kashmir it may lose the control of the Karakoram Highway (part of CPEC).
Unless China can think of a win-win-win for India, Pakistan, and Kashmir, the Kashmir cauldron will keep on boiling – a lose-lose-lose for all 3.
Agree.
Nehru and Gandhi’s commitments on Kashmir: http://www.nazariapak.info/Kashmir/Nehru-Gandhi.php
Rudi Matich
Adivasi across India have been forced to convert to Hinduism, Islam and Christianity. They have been the origininal ihabitants across most of India. Using your logic fails. It also fails in lands like the New world and Australia
You also need to include time and change. Kashmir today is predominantly Muslim and secondly Hindu. There is no reason why both groups cannot live together in an independent nation.
Hostilitites between them often reflec the hositilities between India and Pakistan
Syed Abbas
One of the many problems with India includes the fact that she has used the division of other nations as a weapon to destroy. When India created Bangladesh it was not so much for the wellbeing of the Bengali people as it was to divide Pakistan’s power.
Likewise India has increased her power by annexing other nations such as Sikkim and Goa (the last violated the Hague’s ruling).
In that sense New Delhi cannot see forming a new nation as positive. New Delhi’s foreign is partly dictated by fear that new nations will be failures and not a success or at the worst, a new enemy. If fear dictates any part of India’s foreign policy others pay the prices.
The greatest victims of Islamists are Muslims themselves.
Michael Bagala
People practice towards others what they practice towards themselves.
China does not fear neighbors, but India does. Simply because Chinese are inclusives and Indians exclusive. The dreaded caste system (varna=skin colour in Sanskrit) is a racial based system where light skinned are high caste and dark skinned low. The foreign Aryans imposed this on India 3,500 years ago, and since then a divided India has been the victim of Greeks, Arabs, Afghans, Turks, Mongols, Mughals, and Europeans. Indians fear themselves, so they fear others.
Religion in India is well entrenched. This will not change. Lament for India, destined to be divided and poor or enslaved.
This pic is taken from Gaza riots. To most Pakistanis, there is no difference between ‘truth’ and ‘falsehood’ . They are interchangeable!
Hardik Bhabhor, Perry Kamath: I deliberately posted this picture as to me, In-Dia and Israel are hands in glove in suppression and oppression of their Muslim population. I am now posting a picture of a teenage victim of pellet gun in Indian Occupied Kashmir. Now you would say that this girl is from Zimbabwe.
This girl is a ninth class student Insha Malik who has lost vision in her left eye that was pierced by pellets fired by occupation forces, and doctors say there are “zero chances” of the teenager regaining vision in her right eye, also badly damaged by the pellets. Her story appeared in the Indian Occupied Kashmir’s newspaper Greater Kashmir on 14 July 2016. Here is the link: http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/front-page/tragic-pellets-blind-14-year-old-insha-forever/222869.html
Saifullah Jan If you stop sending your Jihadi activist I hope all situation will be soon resolved! Everyday some dumb youth blind from Islamic propoganda comes and fire on Army! If Army dont kill them that mad basterds kills soldiers! Do you think Hafeez Saeed is doing good to your country?
You are not taking a wise decisions! If your army clears all terrorist and extremist from PoK there will be peace forever! Why there is no single attack by any Indian group in PoK? Tell me.
Saifullah Jan Your mullaji and NC and all are agitating youth for stone pelting and all terrorism activities in Kasmir. You have spoiled your own youth and now you are spoiling youth of Kasmir. Your Allah is not in any threat in Kasmir. Let them live and leave. What is better in Pakistan that Kasmir see which is better than India?
Syed Abbas There is nothing Like Light And dark hindu!!! Caste system is there but its not decided by skin colour! It will change! all will change is next 15 years! And better Pakistan also changes its mind by destabilizing terrorist cames accros PoK and prevailing peace in the Valley!
You claim that “Modi is our Hero! A true phase of esteem of selfless Hindu people! “ It was the same “hero” who was banned from entering the United States because of his dirty role in anti-Muslim riots in Gujrat. Some excerpts from Times of India story dated 18 March 2005: Quote In a severe rebuke to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, the United States has denied him entry to America. Taking a strong stand against the senior BJP leader and Hindutva icon, the US Consular division on Friday denied him a "diplomatic visa", apparently holding him responsible for the communal riots in Gujarat in 2002 which claimed over 2000 lives. In addition, his tourist/business visa which was already granted has also been revoked under a section of US Immigration and Nationality Act.A US embassy spokesman confirmed that the "Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi had applied for but was denied diplomatic visa under 214 (b) of Immigration and Nationality Act because he was not coming for a purpose that qualify for a diplomatic visa." Unquote Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-entry-for-Modi-into-US-visa-denied/articleshow/1055543.cms
There was also a ban on your “hero” to enter the United Kingdom. An excerpt from Daily Telegraph dated12 October 2012. Since 2002, Mr Modi has been shunned by several countries including the United States, which denied him an entry visa in 2005 and Britain which cut all official contact with his government. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9605070/British-decision-to-lift-ban-on-Narendra-Modi-criticised.html
Do you see any “phase of esteem” for Narendri Modi, after going through the above
You claim that “Modi is our Hero! A true phase of esteem of selfless Hindu people! “ It was the same “hero” who was banned from entering the United States because of his dirty role in anti-Muslim riots in Gujrat. Some excerpts from Times of India story dated 18 March 2005: Quote In a severe rebuke to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, the United States has denied him entry to America. Taking a strong stand against the senior BJP leader and Hindutva icon, the US Consular division on Friday denied him a "diplomatic visa", apparently holding him responsible for the communal riots in Gujarat in 2002 which claimed over 2000 lives. In addition, his tourist/business visa which was already granted has also been revoked under a section of US Immigration and Nationality Act.A US embassy spokesman confirmed that the "Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi had applied for but was denied diplomatic visa under 214 (b) of Immigration and Nationality Act because he was not coming for a purpose that qualify for a diplomatic visa." Unquote Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-entry-for-Modi-into-US-visa-denied/articleshow/1055543.cms
There was also a ban on your “hero” to enter the United Kingdom. An excerpt from Daily Telegraph dated12 October 2012. Since 2002, Mr Modi has been shunned by several countries including the United States, which denied him an entry visa in 2005 and Britain which cut all official contact with his government. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9605070/British-decision-to-lift-ban-on-Narendra-Modi-criticised.html
Do you see any “phase of esteem” for Narendri Modi, after going through the above?
You claim that “Modi is our Hero! A true phase of esteem of selfless Hindu people! “ It was the same “hero” who was banned from entering the United States because of his dirty role in anti-Muslim riots in Gujrat. Some excerpts from Times of India story dated 18 March 2005: Quote In a severe rebuke to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, the United States has denied him entry to America. Taking a strong stand against the senior BJP leader and Hindutva icon, the US Consular division on Friday denied him a "diplomatic visa", apparently holding him responsible for the communal riots in Gujarat in 2002 which claimed over 2000 lives. In addition, his tourist/business visa which was already granted has also been revoked under a section of US Immigration and Nationality Act.A US embassy spokesman confirmed that the "Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi had applied for but was denied diplomatic visa under 214 (b) of Immigration and Nationality Act because he was not coming for a purpose that qualify for a diplomatic visa." Unquote Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-entry-for-Modi-into-US-visa-denied/articleshow/1055543.cms
There was also a ban on your “hero” to enter the United Kingdom. An excerpt from Daily Telegraph dated12 October 2012. Since 2002, Mr Modi has been shunned by several countries including the United States, which denied him an entry visa in 2005 and Britain which cut all official contact with his government. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9605070/British-decision-to-lift-ban-on-Narendra-Modi-criticised.html
Do you see any “phase of esteem” for Narendri Modi, after going through the above?
You claim that “Modi is our Hero! A true phase of esteem of selfless Hindu people! “ It was the same “hero” who was banned from entering the United States because of his dirty role in anti-Muslim riots in Gujrat. Some excerpts from Times of India story dated 18 March 2005: Quote In a severe rebuke to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, the United States has denied him entry to America. Taking a strong stand against the senior BJP leader and Hindutva icon, the US Consular division on Friday denied him a "diplomatic visa", apparently holding him responsible for the communal riots in Gujarat in 2002 which claimed over 2000 lives. In addition, his tourist/business visa which was already granted has also been revoked under a section of US Immigration and Nationality Act.A US embassy spokesman confirmed that the "Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi had applied for but was denied diplomatic visa under 214 (b) of Immigration and Nationality Act because he was not coming for a purpose that qualify for a diplomatic visa." Unquote Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-entry-for-Modi-into-US-visa-denied/articleshow/1055543.cms
There was also a ban on your “hero” to enter the United Kingdom. An excerpt from Daily Telegraph dated12 October 2012. Since 2002, Mr Modi has been shunned by several countries including the United States, which denied him an entry visa in 2005 and Britain which cut all official contact with his government. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9605070/British-decision-to-lift-ban-on-Narendra-Modi-criticised.html
Do you see any “phase of esteem” for Narendri Modi, after going through the above?
Hardik Bhabhor Pakistan is not sending any “Jihadi activists” to Indian occupied Kashmir. It is the indigenous youth of Kashmiri Muslims, who, particularly since1989, have been waging a heroic struggle against the occupation army to achieve their right to self-determination. Besides, after construction of hundreds of kilometers long barbed wire by India on border in Punjab and Kashmir, it is practically impossible for any “Jihadi” to enter the Indian side.
There is no doubt that Kashmir is a dispute that continues to remain on the agenda of the United Nations. It was India herself that first took the Kashmir dispute to the United Nations, which then adopted a number of resolutions that India refuses to implement till date.
By the way, Kashmir is not the only trouble spot for India. It is the Indian State Terrorism that has compelled the people of Assam, Mizoram, Tripura, Manipur, Nagaland and Khalistan to take up arms to break the yoke of slavery. Pls read this interview of a Srinagar-based Kashmiri human right activist Khurram Pervez titled “ Do you need 700,000 soldiers to fight 150 militants?”
https://scroll.in/article/812010/do-you-need-700000-soldiers-to-fight-150-militants-kashmiri-rights-activist-khurram-parvez
Hardik Bhabhor: You claim that “Modi is our Hero! A true phase of esteem of selfless Hindu people! “ It was the same “hero” who was banned from entering the United States because of his dirty role in anti-Muslim riots in Gujrat. Some excerpts from Times of India story dated 18 March 2005: Quote In a severe rebuke to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, the United States has denied him entry to America. Taking a strong stand against the senior BJP leader and Hindutva icon, the US Consular division on Friday denied him a "diplomatic visa", apparently holding him responsible for the communal riots in Gujarat in 2002 which claimed over 2000 lives. In addition, his tourist/business visa which was already granted has also been revoked under a section of US Immigration and Nationality Act.A US embassy spokesman confirmed that the "Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi had applied for but was denied diplomatic visa under 214 (b) of Immigration and Nationality Act because he was not coming for a purpose that qualify for a diplomatic visa." Unquote Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-entry-for-Modi-into-US-visa-denied/articleshow/1055543.cms
There was also a ban on your “hero” to enter the United Kingdom. An excerpt from Daily Telegraph dated12 October 2012. Since 2002, Mr Modi has been shunned by several countries including the United States, which denied him an entry visa in 2005 and Britain which cut all official contact with his government. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9605070/British-decision-to-lift-ban-on-Narendra-Modi-criticised.html
Do you see any “phase of esteem” for Narendri Modi, after going through the above?
Hardik Bhabhor
LOL
Who wants Kashmir? Kashmir is the English Finger up India’s behind for asking for freedom. It will always keep the Indians spend most of their military budget.
With India busy with Kashmir China and Pak can sleep in peace.
Modi is ISI agent in India. With him destroying India from within by dividing it along caste, religion, language, race, regional lines, Pak and China do not need to worry about India. They hope that Modi will be around for at least 20 years.
Hardik Bhabhor: You claim that “Modi is our Hero! A true phase of esteem of selfless Hindu people! “ It was the same “hero” who was banned from entering the United States because of his dirty role in anti-Muslim riots in Gujrat. Some excerpts from Times of India story dated 18 March 2005: Quote In a severe rebuke to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, the United States has denied him entry to America. Taking a strong stand against the senior BJP leader and Hindutva icon, the US Consular division on Friday denied him a "diplomatic visa", apparently holding him responsible for the communal riots in Gujarat in 2002 which claimed over 2000 lives. In addition, his tourist/business visa which was already granted has also been revoked under a section of US Immigration and Nationality Act.A US embassy spokesman confirmed that the "Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi had applied for but was denied diplomatic visa under 214 (b) of Immigration and Nationality Act because he was not coming for a purpose that qualify for a diplomatic visa." Unquote Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-entry-for-Modi-into-US-visa-denied/articleshow/1055543.cms
There was also a ban on your “hero” to enter the United Kingdom. An excerpt from Daily Telegraph dated12 October 2012. Since 2002, Mr Modi has been shunned by several countries including the United States, which denied him an entry visa in 2005 and Britain which cut all official contact with his government. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9605070/British-decision-to-lift-ban-on-Narendra-Modi-criticised.html
Do you see any “phase of esteem” for Narendri Modi, after going through the above?
Hardik Bhabhor: You claim that “Modi is our Hero! A true phase of esteem of selfless Hindu people! “ It was the same “hero” who was banned from entering the United States because of his dirty role in anti-Muslim riots in Gujrat. Some excerpts from Times of India story dated 18 March 2005: Quote In a severe rebuke to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, the United States has denied him entry to America. Taking a strong stand against the senior BJP leader and Hindutva icon, the US Consular division on Friday denied him a "diplomatic visa", apparently holding him responsible for the communal riots in Gujarat in 2002 which claimed over 2000 lives. In addition, his tourist/business visa which was already granted has also been revoked under a section of US Immigration and Nationality Act.A US embassy spokesman confirmed that the "Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi had applied for but was denied diplomatic visa under 214 (b) of Immigration and Nationality Act because he was not coming for a purpose that qualify for a diplomatic visa." Unquote Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-entry-for-Modi-into-US-visa-denied/articleshow/1055543.cms
There was also a ban on your “hero” to enter the United Kingdom. An excerpt from Daily Telegraph dated12 October 2012. Since 2002, Mr Modi has been shunned by several countries including the United States, which denied him an entry visa in 2005 and Britain which cut all official contact with his government. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9605070/British-decision-to-lift-ban-on-Narendra-Modi-criticised.html
Do you see any “phase of esteem” for Narendri Modi, after going through the above?
Syed Abbas
1) Islamic Invaders into the Indian Subconitinent:
a) Arabic: caliph umar 644 AD, Ummayad caliphate: caliph Al-Walid I, Al-Hajjaj ibn Yusuf, mohammed bin kasim 710 AD, Junaid b. Abd Al Rahman Al Marri 723
b) Persianized-Turkic: Mahmud of Ghazni 1001 AD, Muhammad of Ghor 1175, Quṭb al-Dīn Aibak 1193, Bakhtiyar Khilji 1193, Alauddin Khilji 1296
Ghiyasuddin Tughlaq 1320, Muhammad bin Tughluq 1325, Feroz Shah Tughluq 1351, Timur 1398, babur 1519
None of them qualify as your medeival traders, do they?. Trade came after conquest, under captivity. It’s like saying "I raped you, but I later married you, did I not?"
Also, if you study Indian economy today (across all industries) you will not make school boy like blanket statements like food and music is solely foreign or fusion.
Syed Abbas
2) If one is to buy into your statement that "Religions are tied to economy", then applying your logic to present day Pakistan, then Sindhis (historical traders) should be dominating and ruling over punjabis (historical agrarians). Is that the case though? Before posting, applyling a simple mathematical rule by yourself called "disprove by counter example" will spare us readers a lot of trouble
Syed Abbas total rubbish! the South Indian empires like the Pallavas and Cholas were trading empires. The backward North Indian agrarian principalities were not what the rest of India was like. Even today the Hindi-speakign BIMARU states are the most backward after 600 years of the Delhi sultanat and Mughals and 200 years of British rule.
Syed Abbas
I disagree that "India’ was "static" from the 1-10 centuiry. It was extremely dynamic. Hinduism’s golden age the Gupta Empire, Buddhism reigned supreme including the University of Nalanda to Nagajunakonda. the age of Temple building (8th to 13th century) similar to Europe’s age of Cathedrals. Some of Asia’s masterpieces as in the Ajanta and Ellora. From kalidasa, Brahmagutpa, Ayrabhata, Shankara, and in the South the Pallava, Pandya Empires, This was the time of early christianity, Islam came in peacefully, Judaism came as refugees and so did the Zoroastrians. This was also the age when Hindu numerals became popular to the game of chess.
Muslim Ulema are brain less. Jihad has hurt Muslims every where & created destruction in Muslim Lands. Look at: Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Chechniya, Lybia, Somalia. List is long. But if they still insist on it, let them try it. They will not win. I Gaurentee it.
Instead of concentrating on educational, economic & industrial development in Muslim Lands Mullahs want to try 1400 years old concept misapplied in todays environment. In Islam concept of Jihad is totally diffrent then what these self destructive Mullah teach Muslims.
Muslims have to understand that these Maulvies are their Biggest Enemies. They denied Muslim all Scientific developments in the past. Printing was banned in Muslim World for almost 400 years. They still dream of beating infidels with borrowed (or Purchased on Loans given by Infidels) weapons from the infidels. This is the height of Foolishness. They want to put Muslims on Suicidal path & Govt. of Pakistan is run by fools. They have no guts to stand up to these maniacs. Recipe for Total destruction.
It is the duty of Pakistani Masses to rise against these opressors (Mullah) & throw them in Arabian Sea or Ship them to Hell. Then may be they can dream of beating India. Till that day they will not be able to win a Jihad.
Judaism has done far more harm than any other faith
Judaism has done far more harm than any other faith
In view of what you have propagated above, it becomes all the more necessary to introduce/promote a new political party i.e.LGBT Pakistan in our Islamic Republic, which, after winning elections, could form its own government with two-third majority, thereby paving the way for a very speedy economic development in Pakistan.
Hardik Bhabhor: You claim that “Modi is our Hero! A true phase of esteem of selfless Hindu people! “ It was the same “hero” who was banned from entering the United States because of his dirty role in anti-Muslim riots in Gujrat. Some excerpts from Times of India story dated 18 March 2005: Quote In a severe rebuke to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, the United States has denied him entry to America. Taking a strong stand against the senior BJP leader and Hindutva icon, the US Consular division on Friday denied him a "diplomatic visa", apparently holding him responsible for the communal riots in Gujarat in 2002 which claimed over 2000 lives. In addition, his tourist/business visa which was already granted has also been revoked under a section of US Immigration and Nationality Act.A US embassy spokesman confirmed that the "Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi had applied for but was denied diplomatic visa under 214 (b) of Immigration and Nationality Act because he was not coming for a purpose that qualify for a diplomatic visa." Unquote Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-entry-for-Modi-into-US-visa-denied/articleshow/1055543.cms
There was also a ban on your “hero” to enter the United Kingdom. An excerpt from Daily Telegraph dated12 October 2012. Since 2002, Mr Modi has been shunned by several countries including the United States, which denied him an entry visa in 2005 and Britain which cut all official contact with his government. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9605070/British-decision-to-lift-ban-on-Narendra-Modi-criticised.html
Do you see any “phase of esteem” for Narendri Modi, after going through the above?
Hardik Bhabhor: You claim that “Modi is our Hero! A true phase of esteem of selfless Hindu people! “ It was the same “hero” who was banned from entering the United States because of his dirty role in anti-Muslim riots in Gujrat. Some excerpts from Times of India story dated 18 March 2005: Quote In a severe rebuke to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, the United States has denied him entry to America. Taking a strong stand against the senior BJP leader and Hindutva icon, the US Consular division on Friday denied him a "diplomatic visa", apparently holding him responsible for the communal riots in Gujarat in 2002 which claimed over 2000 lives. In addition, his tourist/business visa which was already granted has also been revoked under a section of US Immigration and Nationality Act.A US embassy spokesman confirmed that the "Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi had applied for but was denied diplomatic visa under 214 (b) of Immigration and Nationality Act because he was not coming for a purpose that qualify for a diplomatic visa." Unquote Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-entry-for-Modi-into-US-visa-denied/articleshow/1055543.cms
There was also a ban on your “hero” to enter the United Kingdom. An excerpt from Daily Telegraph dated12 October 2012. Since 2002, Mr Modi has been shunned by several countries including the United States, which denied him an entry visa in 2005 and Britain which cut all official contact with his government. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9605070/British-decision-to-lift-ban-on-Narendra-Modi-criticised.html
Do you see any “phase of esteem” for Narendri Modi, after going through the above?
Syed Abbas They can harm each other if they insist, but they have no right to violate the life of non-Muslims who want nothing to do with Islam. Leave us alone!
Hardik Bhabhor: You claim that “Modi is our Hero! A true phase of esteem of selfless Hindu people! “ It was the same “hero” who was banned from entering the United States because of his dirty role in anti-Muslim riots in Gujrat. Some excerpts from Times of India story dated 18 March 2005: Quote In a severe rebuke to Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, the United States has denied him entry to America. Taking a strong stand against the senior BJP leader and Hindutva icon, the US Consular division on Friday denied him a "diplomatic visa", apparently holding him responsible for the communal riots in Gujarat in 2002 which claimed over 2000 lives. In addition, his tourist/business visa which was already granted has also been revoked under a section of US Immigration and Nationality Act.A US embassy spokesman confirmed that the "Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi had applied for but was denied diplomatic visa under 214 (b) of Immigration and Nationality Act because he was not coming for a purpose that qualify for a diplomatic visa." Unquote Link: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-entry-for-Modi-into-US-visa-denied/articleshow/1055543.cms
There was also a ban on your “hero” to enter the United Kingdom. An excerpt from Daily Telegraph dated12 October 2012. Since 2002, Mr Modi has been shunned by several countries including the United States, which denied him an entry visa in 2005 and Britain which cut all official contact with his government. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9605070/British-decision-to-lift-ban-on-Narendra-Modi-criticised.html
Do you see any “phase of esteem” for Narendri Modi, after going through the above?
My narrative is not dishonest. If like ostrich you want to bury your head in the sand then nothing can be done. Mullah put the Capital of Pakistan under siege for more than a month & Govt. Could not do anything, proves that they are Eunichs.
Army needs Mullahs for their own political reasons. Pakistani Govt., Judiciary & army are not secular by nature. May be leaders are in their personal life secular but when it comes to Puclic policy religion is always used as a pawn. That has eroded religious harmony in the country & led to migration of educated class from minorities.
If some one criticize the policies it should not be taken as an attack on Pakistan. I am sure I am not less patriot then you.
By the way I am 1000% more patriotic then these Self destructive Mullahs.
“Deenay Mullah Fee Sabilillah Fassad”.
These Maulvies need the Ataturk Treatment, & 100% of them deserve to be thrown in the sea.
Only way to save PK is Destroy Mullahs. Otherwise they will destroy PK????????.
❤️????????.
Mr Ravinder just remember that Indian leaders are not less fool than their Pakistani counter parts. Pakistan was not created by Jinnah. It was created by leaders of Congress. Kindly read History with open eyes. Just remember most of Today’s Jihadis were with Congress & against Jinnah.
But once PK was created Mullahs started a covert operation to destroy PK from within by dividing it on sectarian lines & then along religious lines.
Then Came CIA . Rest is open history that how these Ullah played at the hand of CIA. They Danced at the Music played by CIA. American $ were falling on them like rain. Now these blood thirsty Mullahs do not know anything other than blood.
India is not an innocent victim in all this.
They first attacked PK on they day when Jinnah died & took away a big chunk of Pakistan. (State of Haiderabad & Junagarh). If Kashmir belongs to India just because Maharaja of Kashmir decided to join India then by same Logic States of Haiderabad & Junaghar belongs to PK????????.
Let’s be honest with History & stop the self destructive behaviors of India & Pakistan.
Let Kashmiri people decide their own fate, as simple as that.
Khalid Ahmad دے رہے ہیں تمھیں جو آج رفاقت کا فریب
ان کی تاریخ پٖڑھوگے تو دھل جاؤگے
اپنی مٹی پہ ہی چلنے کا سلیقہ سیکھو
سنگ مرمر پہ چلوگے تو پھسل جاؤگے
I am a Kashmiri living in Pakistani controlled Kashmir. I belong to party that support Kashmir for Kashmiris regardless of their religeons. We are struggling for an independant state of Kashmir which will be based on secular and social democratic ideologies. India and Pakistan are no one to control and kill us on our own lands. Both having dirty and bad intentions to grab our land and resources and keep us like slave. 84471 square miles area of our state puts us respectable on world map. Religeous hatred is spread by India and Pakistan just to fulfil and justify their forced occupation.
Since Pakistan stated that only the "state" can issue a fatwa it is not up to any renegade group to tell islamabad when to declare one and for what purpose. This group is NOT the state.
Pakistan’s stand is about similar to India where declaration of a war is a state issue.
You got 100% of my support. I too would love to see an independent Kashmir free of Asia’s nuclear powers and who has her own voice in the UN.
Because I am a Kashmiri dweller and I know the reality.