China refers to its J-20 as a fifth-generation stealth fighter. Photo: CGTN

For over a decade, Russia and China have been touted in the media and defense spaces as twin bogeymen menacing the US-led security order.

One of the most feverish ways this fear presents itself is the concept of Russia or China matching or surpassing the US in the fields of stealth technology and advanced fifth-generation fighters.

Bean-count numbers in the casual defense space tally up the PLAAF’s J-20 stealth aircraft alongside the US’s F-35 and F-22 fleets and speculate on Russia’s ability to detect and shoot down US stealth aircraft with its vaunted S-400 air defense system.

If this is indeed an arms race, then the United States should be thrilled as every conceivable advantage is on its side. In this race, the US is effectively bringing Usain Bolt to the contest, Russia is a paralytic and China is a pre-teen getting ready for its first middle school track meet.

To start, Russia’s fifth-generation stealth capabilities can be written off with relative certainty. After a tortuously delayed and over-expensive program lasting three decades, the number of Su-57s delivered is just edging over 20.

Russia’s absurdly poor production quality paired with the Su-57’s 4th generation “unstealthy” engines and absence of meaningful combat near or in Ukraine is strong evidence that its fighters probably are not true stealth nor are they fifth-generation.

Meanwhile, the S-400’s ability to detect fifth-generation fighters at any meaningful range is at best questionable given significant overclaiming by the Russian Ministry of Defense in the past, so outrageously revealed in the Ukraine war that Moscow arrested its own top aerospace scientists for treason.

This, combined with Russian legacy systems’ historically poor performance against US aircraft in Iraq, Yugoslavia and Syria, gives little sign that the evolutionary upgrade that is the S-400 would fare any better against the US stealth planes of today.

They also suffer from the critical flaw that S-400s are both in NATO and that the Russians have no way to reliably, internally test their own systems against a verified stealth aircraft.

As for China, without a comparative analysis, it would appear that the PLA-Air Force has done somewhat better in the stealth field. While possessing the same unproven ability to actually be a stealth aircraft, the PLAAF has at least fielded its first stealth fighter, the J-20, in 2017 and possesses perhaps as many as 300 today.

Its unveiled H-20 fifth-generation bomber is touted as bringing new and lethal capabilities to China’s force projection. Without context, China’s growing force can appear to be a pertinent, rising challenge to US aerospace dominance.

Contextualized, however, the US’s complete dominance of the aerospace sphere becomes apparent. The US led China by more than four decades in introducing its first stealth aircraft, the F-117 Nighthawk, with the immeasurable advantage of actually being tested in combat and against a highly prepared foe.

In 1991, Baghdad was considered the most heavily defended city on earth, with a vaunted air defense system composed of hundreds of SAM sites, thousands of anti-aircraft guns and a powerful network of air defense radars. More than three decades ago, the first generation of F-117 stealth bombers dismantled this air defense system from within without a single casualty.

Twelve years before the J-20 was operationally fielded, the first US fifth-generation fighter, the F-22 was introduced to service. Today, the US fields more of the F-22’s direct successor, the F-35, than every other fifth-generation fighter type in the world combined, including the US Air Force’s own sizable F-22 fleet.

If it came to war in the Indo-Pacific, China’s J-20, with a radar cross section (RCS) plausibly that of a Super Hornet’s, would be outnumbered four to one by F-22s and F-35s, inheritors of a demonstrably lethal line of US fighter technology.

Veteran F-15 pilots have described flying against the F-22 “like having two football teams against each other and one of them [the Raptor] is invisible,” and described engaging aggressor fighters with an ease like “clubbing baby seals” in field tests.

China has operationally deployed exactly zero of its much-hyped H-20, leaving the US as the only military force on the globe not only fielding the world’s only fifth-generation stealth bombers (the B-2) but having done so unopposed for 27 years.

Put in context, the B-2’s 27-year operational gap over the H-20 is the same length of time between the first primitive biplane duels over the battlegrounds of WWI and the vast, coordinated air campaigns of the Battle of Britain.

Three of the B-2’s sixth-generation replacement, the B-21 Raider, are already flying in the US. While the USAF has employed stealth aircraft in combat continually from Panama to Desert Storm to the 20-year War on Terror, Russian and Chinese stealth planes have never been confirmed by any outside source to have participated in combat of any kind.

Beyond the US’s demonstrated major advantages in numbers and combat experience, the Russians and Chinese both face a nearly insurmountable issue for their own design programs. Put simply, there is no way for either nation to practically verify if their aircraft are “stealthy” or not, or if they can detect enemy stealth aircraft. 

There is no question that their engineers have succeeded in designing airframes with a low RCS, which can be independently measured. However, the Russians and the Chinese have no way of knowing if their aircraft have any realistic stealth or counter-stealth capability.

By comparison, the US can test itself against both its own proven designs and its adversary’s top systems. Officially decommissioned F-117s have seen regular use in aggressor training, testing modern US designs’ ability to acquire and engage stealth targets.

Knowing that their F-117s defeated the best Soviet-era air defenses in the world over Baghdad and that the B-2 operated freely in the well-defended Kosovo airspace gave US engineers a rock-solid base from which to continue their stealth development with the assurance that their designs actually worked in combat.

The presence of Turkish S-400s in NATO has allowed the US a direct ability to test their aircraft against Russia’s top defense system and develop countermeasures. Meanwhile, Russia and China have no way to practically test their stealth aircraft and sensor systems, other than using their own unproven designs as a basis.

Between historical and habitual Russian and Chinese overclaiming, no demonstrated capability and no ability for either to realistically test their own “stealth” aircraft, the evidence suggests that neither has any stealth aircraft yet.

Instead, the preponderance of evidence shows that their proclaimed “stealth” aircraft should instead be classified as “low-observable” – aircraft with measures taken to reduce their radar signature – rather than true stealth designs.

This is not to say definitively that neither Russia nor China has any stealth aircraft. Rather, this article calls for their existence to be debatable rather than an unquestioned and accepted truth.

Not only are the Russian and Chinese air forces at a numerical and experience disadvantage in the realm of fifth-generation fighters, but their very possession of stealth aircraft may well be more myth than reality.

Walker Gargagliano is a post-graduate fellow at the Trevor Dupuy Institute and research assistant at the National Security Archive in Washington DC. He has written and presented research for the Society for Military History, George Washington University’s Cold War Studies Group and Phi Alpha Theta, and lectured on military history at the University of North Texas and George Washington University. The views expressed here are his own.

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  1. Will US ever allow the F35 jet to be exposed to the Turkish S400 for the purpose of testing ?Remember that the test result can go direct to the Russians.

  2. “post-graduate fellow” – good, good, hahaha – the amount of delusions, denials and preconceived prejudices in this write-up is truly mind-boggling, especially with regards to china – but you know what, china will be very happy about that because the more the west is ignorant about china, and kids itself that its still the “leader”, the better it is or china …

  3. What does one make of the fact that 32 NATO member states, equipped with the latest American, British and French weapons, have in three and a bit years been unable to beat Russia, with her ‘inferior’ weaponry? And what does one make of the fact that NATO abides by the Russian-imposed No Fly zone? Might the over-rated S-400 not be as innocuous as you say.

    1. But no NATO country has been fighting in Ukraine. In 2014 Russ invaded and the Ukr army was a shambles.
      Fast forward to 2022, and with some W training and cast off kit the 3wk SMO has lasted 3yrs and 1m Russ have been KIA or casualties. The Black Sea fleet has been converted to submarines and the Russian airforce has been neutralised.
      Russia which has a population 4x Ukr and a GDP atleast that has lost 3-4x as many soldiers.
      Also remember the Ukr and Russ have fought and suffered together for 300yrs. They are joined by history and blood ties (50% are/were Russ speakers). But they didn’t welcome the Putinkim Army, they have fought it to a bloody standstill.
      If this was the W plan, decimate Russland and peel off Ukr, then it was a very cunning plan, Baldrick.

  4. Yes, U.S. will win the dogfights.

    China’s strategy is to avoid the strong points and to attack the weak points. Since U.S. is strong in dogfights, then China won’t take part in that fight. China will attack the weak points like U.S. air bases.

    Where will U.S. jets take off from to attack China? Where will they land?

      1. You are projecting your hatred of all things Chinese onto countries that have strong trading and investment relationships with China, three of the four mentioned. Over 56,000 Japanese enterprises operate in China. S. Korea is a big investor in China, semiconductors in particular, but declining recently due to US-China tension. Chinese investment in Vietnam, including from Hong Kong, places them as the fourth largest investor. The investments indicate cordial relations. It is obvious to anyone visiting Asia Times that you are a racist and a xenophobe.

      2. They need Chinese rare earth, baka! Tunak Tunak Tun, Tunak Tunak Tun, … that’s sour grape syndrome, don’t you wish you had some J-35s instead of Rafales?

  5. “Veteran F-15 pilots have described flying against the F-22 “like having two football teams against each other and one of them [the Raptor] is invisible,” and described engaging aggressor fighters with an ease like “clubbing baby seals” in field tests.”

    China’s strategy for dealing with F 22 is not to engage in dog fights but to destroy all the air bases hosting U.S. jets in Pacific region like Iran hitting the U.S. airbase in Qatar. The difference is that China has more missiles than Iran and they are more accurate and powerful.

    1. You know, Vietnam also showcased its own aircraft, drones, and missiles at the Hanoi military exhibition. I bet these aircraft and missiles could easily shoot down a B2 Raider.

      1. You don’t have to shoot down the B2. Destroy all the U.S. air bases in Pacific region is enough.

        China’s strategy is to avoid air dogfights and to wipe out all U.S. air bases in Pacific.

          1. Like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, and China, which surround the toilet-hand country.

    1. No, it’s not a fake. However, an Oreshnik dud was found in Ukraine, showing that the internal components are of Western origin.

      1. What a load of bull. The Oreshnik missile has had one confirmed combat use into Ukraine.

        1. APnews: Russia has used its hypersonic Oreshnik missile for the first time. What are its capabilities?

          1. Don’t be rush to rant. Do some research on the web before start moaning.
            – APnews of December 9, 2024.
            – diploweb.com of 12 décembre 2024:
            – The KIYV Independent, June 26, 2025: Russia’s new Oreshnik missile relies on Western manufacturing technology, FT reports
            – and more.

          2. You are one those disingenuous types that when caught out weasel around. There have been no dud Oreshniks found in Ukraine! I watched video of the single combat usage on television, a multiple solid projectiles strike.

  6. America’s F35 has been PROVEN to be NON-Stealth🤣🤣🤣🤣
    4 F35 were SHOT DOWN by Iran.

    1. Not a jot of credible evidence for that. There has been no television of wreckage which they would have been only too eager to show.

  7. & the “writer”…of “this” is a “post-graduate researcher’s”….really?….It sound like…a bully teenager at the looker room…on a manhood… contest…very poor & childish…

  8. Stealth is an offensive capability. The United States pioneered it because she is generally on the offensive, to maintain her suzerainty over the world. Russia is mainly interested in her ‘near abroad’, principally to keep NATO at bay, so defence by stealth aircraft has a low priority. It is cheaper to do air defence other ways. Metre-wavelength radar can detect stealth aircraft in the horizontal plane, and nuclear-explosive tipped missiles can shoot them down without accuracy. All for a lot less money than building stealth fighters. China’s interest in stealth aircraft is another matter entirely. I wonder if anyone can work it out?

  9. What really matters are trendlines and its clear that CN progressed from being a largely agrarian society to fielding 6th gen stealth prototypes in only 40 years. What they are capable of achieving in another 40 years is anybody’s guess but logic seems to indicate even more astounding surprises to come.

  10. The conversation should be about progress not about killing capacities.
    Green energy, electric/hybrid vehicles, batteries, space, communications ( Huawei and paralyzing american fear about chinese tech progress) and so on.
    Idiots. You almost never can read about an western new real tech/social progress but nly weapons.
    They are scares to death that the neocolonialism is on its last leg and that their power over the world is vanishing fast, and they will disappear in the dust of history.
    So they cling on the illusory military power. They will still be able to bomb some countries which refuse to dance on their tune, for a while.
    But not for long.
    The payday is very close.
    But in desperation they will be the one to use the nuke, not Iran, not China or not Russia.
    Will see.

    1. China emits more CO2 than the USA. They are also polluting not only their own country but others in their neo-colonial empire.

      1. The toilet hand Capon proudly sits as the land with the most polluted cities in the world. The people use cow piss for vitamin!

    2. You should ask yourself why China is trying by all means to overtake the US militarily, even though its per capita purchasing power is only about a quarter of that of the US? It’s not due to “neocolonialism” of the West or the US, because China wants more than just to be stronger than the US. Incidentally, India has to build up its military base because China is claiming parts of Indian territory and causing unrest there and in the East Sea with the Philippines. So who is causing chaos in the world? And the West has no choice but to show China that it can stand up to China.

  11. And H-20 has never been unveiled. No one has been able to produce any credible data or image beyond the much rumored H-20 designation

  12. Jealous? They are more real than the mythical US hypersonic missiles and abundant rare earths.

    1. Can China or Russia fly a stealth plane half way round the world and back?
      Can they even fly one 100km?
      The Putinkim Army and Strawberry soldiers are a myth to justify USD on defense.
      REE are mined in many places, but we don’t process because current processing is best left to China who don’t care about the deformities in their own population.
      If the USA closes China’s trade routes you will starve and have no oil in very short order. Back to eating cats and dogs and then humans.

      1. Yes, they did fly more than 100kms and cost much less than $150,000/hr.

        Feitian 2 hypersonic just tested successfully lately. Russia and Iran have their hypersonics too.

        1. Jealous? LOL. China is always a master of deception and counterfeiting. Everything made in China is better, stronger, higher quality, and cheaper… but somehow the stupid world doesn’t want to buy this super thing. LOL

  13. Typical Westerner! Constantly direct words that hurt other people’s feelings and create unnecessary enemies.
    Sun Tzu, Master of Chinese art of war taught Chinese how to wage war. His main strategy is “All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
    J20, H20, and J35 are parts of Chinese warfare in the sense of “deception.” Since China is incapable of developing stealth technology, it must make the US believe China possesses the H20, J20, and J35. LOL

    1. We have to keep feeding the Industrial Military Complex. The Russian army is Putinkin and the Puny Little Army full of strawberry soldiers.
      The only concern is that (like Putin) Winnie Xi Pooh might believe the hype from his Generals and Admirals (lots of Vice and Rear (to paraphrase Jane Austin) as in any Navy)

  14. Jesus Christ! Where did Asia Times find such a gem of military genius expert to entertain us with his deep knowledge and understanding of fighter jet technology, particularly the stealth ones?

    It’s such an eye-opening experience reading this piece of garbage!

    1. Jesus Christ can’t help you change the fact that someone doubts the “stealth technology” from Russia and China. I bet you’re screaming with joy if this article is full of praise for Russian and Chinese “unmatched” in stealth technology. LOL

      1. You could only wish to have such stealth technology. First, try it on your motorcycle parade.

  15. Walker isn’t a researcher. He’s an unemployed political hack looking for a job in the age of Chump and Doge. Telling MAGA people what they want to hear.

        1. I’ll cry myself to sleep. Meanwhile you will be looking for a gf, which is hard if you have epicanthic folds and are under 1.6m.

          1. Too bad your mohel can’t find your foreskin and cut the whole thing thus making you a Capon.