A 90-day trade war truce was hammered out by United States President Donald Trump and China’s head of state Xi Jinping after a mini-summit dinner at the Group of 20 meeting in Buenos Aires.
Over steaks and Argentine wine, the two leaders brokered a ceasefire to ease global tensions and ensure that, for now, there will be no further escalation in tit-for-tat duties on hundreds of billions of goods and products.
“This was an amazing and productive meeting with unlimited possibilities for both the United States and China,” the US president said a statement. “It is my great honor to be working with President Xi.”
Existing tariffs on nearly US$250 billion of Chinese goods at 10% will stay in place but a planned hike to 25% on January 1 will be put on hold. In exchange, the US wants to start immediate talks on Washington’s biggest areas of concerns, such as Chinese trade practices, intellectual property violations, non-tariff barriers and cyber theft.
Discussions will run for roughly the next three months after the threat of further duties on Chinese imports were frozen, and Beijing agreed to buy more US goods and products, which had been on the table since last summer.
“The principal agreement has effectively prevented further expansion of economic friction between the two countries and has opened up new space for win-win cooperation,” said Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi.
“It is conducive not only to the development of the two countries and the well-being of the Chinese and American people but also to stable growth of the world economy,” Wang added.
Maintaining this air optimism in the next three months is open to debate as tough negotiations will certainly lie ahead. Xi gave very little away in an early statement when he said: “Only with cooperation between us can we serve the interest of both peace and prosperity.”
Still, G20 nations had been eager for signs of progress in Buenos Aires as the ongoing trade war threatened to spiral into a new economic Cold War. For global markets, this could be just the boost they are looking for.
Yet the outcome of Trump’s dinner date has sparked mixed reviews when it comes to resolving fundamental differences between the world’s two leading economies.
“I view this as a Chinese victory per my October 23 report from Beijing,” said David P Goldman, an Asia Times columnist and partner. “Trump is asking for the wrong thing, so China will give it to him. He gets to declare victory and China gets to become the dominant world economy in 15 years.”
‘Maximum demands’
Michael Pillsbury, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and a defense official under US presidents including Ronald Reagan and George W Bush, tended to hedge his bets.
“Neither side got their maximum demands and it’s not the first time in US-China relations that both sides claim victory,” he told Bloomberg. “Both sides avoided the worst-case scenario.”
Apart from the Xi-Trump meeting, the annual summit concluded in Argentina’s capital with a watered-down statement.
The G20 communique was finally adopted after all-night haggling by negotiators ensured that the summit at least finished with a joint platform, unlike recent G7 and Asia-Pacific gatherings where Trump’s objections caused unprecedented breakdowns.
The group’s members, apart from the US, agreed to implement the “irreversible” Paris Agreement on climate change, ahead of a UN summit on the planetary threat starting next week in Poland, it said.
But it added that the “United States reiterates its decision to withdraw from the Paris Agreement,” mirroring the divergence seen last year when the US president shocked the global community by bucking the consensus at his first G20.
Credibility in question
The statement also omitted pledges by the G20 to fight protectionism and uphold multilateral trading rules, which used to be a mainstay of the world’s leading economies pre-Trump.
Instead, it merely recognized the “contribution” of the “multilateral trading system,” and added that it was “falling short” in goals of growth and job creation.
“The United States, which is the most open economy in the world, does not accept being shackled,” the summit’s host, Argentina’s President Mauricio Macri, told a news conference.
The G20 also agreed to reform the World Trade Organization, which is accused by Trump of limiting US commercial freedoms to the advantage of China and other rivals.
But the conclusions were dismissed as “the lowest common denominator” by Thomas Bernes, a senior fellow at the Center for International Governance Innovation in Canada who used to be a G20 negotiator for the Canadian government.
“It was the weakest communique we’ve ever seen from the G20,” he told AFP, contrasting the group’s posture now in the Trump era to its sense of common purpose when the leaders first met 10 years ago in the midst of a financial crisis.
Black Sea, black gold
Trump’s determination to plow on with his “America First” agenda stands in contrast to the alliance-building presidency of George HW Bush, whose death Friday triggered warm tributes from European leaders including German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron.
Trump said his predecessor’s passing would prevent him from holding a post-summit news conference, “out of respect” for the Bush family.
It was Trump’s second cancellation after he pulled out of a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, citing Russia’s recent seizure of three Ukrainian vessels off Crimea, although the two did cross paths.
The White House characterized that encounter as an informal chat, but Putin gave it more significance.
“We spoke standing up. I replied to his questions about the incident in the Black Sea,” Putin told reporters, after coming under pressure over the issue from Merkel and Macron at the meeting.
Putin said it was “a pity” that he had not been able to have a proper meeting with Trump. “I think that one is really necessary. I hope that we can meet when the US side is ready for it.”
The Russian leader had a more productive dialogue in Buenos Aires with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.
He greeted the crown prince as a long-lost friend, ignoring Western opprobrium over the prince’s alleged role in the murder of a dissident Saudi journalist in October.
Trump also met briefly with the crown prince, with the two men reportedly exchanging pleasantries during a leaders’ session, a White House official said. Trump later said: “We had no discussion.”
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir discussed the need for progress in the investigation into slain journalist’s brutal killing and dismemberment during talks on Friday, the US State Department said in a statement.
The Trump administration has come under fire for its perceived willingness to look the other way on the gruesome murder in order to maintain ties with a crucial Middle Eastern ally and a major buyer of US armaments.
Reports also said British Prime Minister Theresa May told the prince in a meeting on the G20 sidelines that the killers of Khashoggi should be held to account and that Saudi Arabia should move to build confidence that such an incident would never happen again.
Macron said he told the prince in a separate meeting that Europeans will insist on international experts being part of the investigation into Khashoggi’s killing, Reuters reported. Putin reportedly pulled out a pen and paper to sketch the skirmish in the meeting, Bloomberg reported.
Saudi Arabia has insisted the prince had no prior knowledge of the killing.
– This report draws on wire agency reporting, including AFP
USA hopes to make a deal by sending warships sailing in Chinese territory. LOL!
what is thought-provoking? three month are not sure ample even to read the proposal, but I am sure Trump is still rational about more tariffs.
what is thought-provoking? three month are not sure ample even to read the proposal, but I am sure Trump is still rational about more tariffs.
Hhahahaha check out the postures. Xi is is sitting comfortably with hands at peace, his men with hands on table all same alignment leaning ready to pounce. Trump is the only one leaning forward too much as though begging with some of his men looking for direction wondering what’s next. Who’s calling for ceasefire and helping with farmers now with "unspecified" amount. The major reason China hasn’t turn up the heat is out of respect and gratitude for Bush Senior’s friendship and help to China, and agree for truce for 90 days, a truce Bush surely deserves.
BTW They’re my electronics through HK just as I said many times.
Hhahahaha check out the postures. Xi is is sitting comfortably with hands at peace, his men with hands on table all same alignment leaning ready to pounce. Trump is the only one leaning forward too much as though begging with some of his men looking for direction wondering what’s next. Who’s calling for ceasefire and helping with farmers now with "unspecified" amount. The major reason China hasn’t turn up the heat is out of respect and gratitude for Bush Senior’s friendship and help to China, and agree for truce for 90 days, a truce Bush surely deserves.
BTW They’re my electronics through HK just as I said many times.
It’s a great feeling living in fantasyland. GENIUS TRUMP GAVE AN ULTIMATUM TO THEIR DEMANDS FOR COMPLIANCE TO WITHIN 90 DAYS WITHOUT DROPPING TARIFFS !!! WITHIN 90 DAYS ! If no compliance 25% tariff will kick in. How can this be a victory to Xi Jin Pig and co ? They caved in, succumbed, submitted. Unless you live in fantasy land with rose colored eyes. Dream on ! LOL !!!!!
And Saturday’s truce also contained an ultimatum.
The White House made clear that the 10 per cent tariffs would still leap up to 25 per cent if China doesn’t meet US demands in 90 days.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/donald-trumps-trade-war-showdown-with-chinas-leader-xi-jinping-leads-to-partial-truce/news-story/14322c77ecbd65a5990fd65836c50577
It’s a great feeling living in fantasyland. GENIUS TRUMP GAVE AN ULTIMATUM TO THEIR DEMANDS FOR COMPLIANCE TO WITHIN 90 DAYS WITHOUT DROPPING TARIFFS !!! WITHIN 90 DAYS ! If no compliance 25% tariff will kick in. How can this be a victory to Xi Jin Pig and co ? They caved in, succumbed, submitted. Unless you live in fantasy land with rose colored eyes. Dream on ! LOL !!!!!
And Saturday’s truce also contained an ultimatum.
The White House made clear that the 10 per cent tariffs would still leap up to 25 per cent if China doesn’t meet US demands in 90 days.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/donald-trumps-trade-war-showdown-with-chinas-leader-xi-jinping-leads-to-partial-truce/news-story/14322c77ecbd65a5990fd65836c50577
The presence of trade hawk Peter Navarro is a big slap on th face of whoever is the recipient. Look Xi Jin Pig and Liu He seems about to cry and looks unhappy. Also, Wang Yi. Trump forced the deal upon them. Anyway, 90 days for compliance to Genius Trump demand is big reprieve. That’s a face saving consolation. Dream on ! LOL
https://m.theepochtimes.com/us-china-declare-90-day-halt-to-new-tariffs-white-house-says_2728517.html
The presence of trade hawk Peter Navarro is a big slap on th face of whoever is the recipient. Look Xi Jin Pig and Liu He seems about to cry and looks unhappy. Also, Wang Yi. Trump forced the deal upon them. Anyway, 90 days for compliance to Genius Trump demand is big reprieve. That’s a face saving consolation. Dream on ! LOL
https://m.theepochtimes.com/us-china-declare-90-day-halt-to-new-tariffs-white-house-says_2728517.html
The presence of trade hawk Peter Navarro is a big slap on th face of whoever is the recipient. Look Xi Jin Pig and Liu He seems about to cry and looks unhappy. Also, Wang Yi. Trump forced the deal upon them. Anyway, 90 days for compliance to Genius Trump demand is big reprieve. That’s a face saving consolation. Dream on.
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The presence of trade hawk Peter Navarro is a big slap on th face of whoever is the recipient. Look Xi Jin Pig and Liu He seems about to cry and looks unhappy. Also, Wang Yi. Trump forced the deal upon them. Anyway, 90 days for compliance to Genius Trump demand is big reprieve. That’s a face saving consolation. Dream on.
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Subject : China US declare 90 day halt
Xi Jin Pig Andy co was terrified by below. Need to comply within 90 days with immediate effect. That’s the condition. Keep on dreaming while it last !
https://www.google.com/amp/www.atimes.com/article/us-trade-war-could-cost-millions-of-jobs-in-china/amp/
Xi Jin Pig Andy co was terrified by below. Need to comply within 90 days with immediate effect. That’s the condition. Keep on dreaming while it last !
https://www.google.com/amp/www.atimes.com/article/us-trade-war-could-cost-millions-of-jobs-in-china/amp/
It was never possible in the first place to re-embed the manufacturing supply chain in the USA. Capitalism is about making profit and using said profits to invest and make more profit. Manufacturing cannot move to a higher cost location than a lower cost one. Profit will be reduced. Prices cannot be raised as the american consumer is already saddled with unstainable debt. Wage increases mean less profit. American capitalism would collapse. The final deal in 90 days time will only be a big nothing. Trump failed. But he was destined to fail.
It was never possible in the first place to re-embed the manufacturing supply chain in the USA. Capitalism is about making profit and using said profits to invest and make more profit. Manufacturing cannot move to a higher cost location than a lower cost one. Profit will be reduced. Prices cannot be raised as the american consumer is already saddled with unstainable debt. Wage increases mean less profit. American capitalism would collapse. The final deal in 90 days time will only be a big nothing. Trump failed. But he was destined to fail.
I’m with AT’s Goldman. At the end of 15 years China will have eclipsed the US. What President Trump wants is simply not obtainable.
I’m with AT’s Goldman. At the end of 15 years China will have eclipsed the US. What President Trump wants is simply not obtainable.
Not true. Disruptive technologies can and will change the equilibrium as we know of today. For example, Robotics can continue reducing or take out the labor completely in the manufacturing process. That can bring back the manufacturing back to US. It will be more efficient, quicker and there is no need to pay for international shipping. Products manufactured can be cheaper in US than in China in that case and trade will look very different from what we know of today. It is all economics in the end.
Not true. Disruptive technologies can and will change the equilibrium as we know of today. For example, Robotics can continue reducing or take out the labor completely in the manufacturing process. That can bring back the manufacturing back to US. It will be more efficient, quicker and there is no need to pay for international shipping. Products manufactured can be cheaper in US than in China in that case and trade will look very different from what we know of today. It is all economics in the end.
Agree. China’s economy will be bigger than US in near future, because of the basics – bigger and younger population, high importance to education, political stability, visionary leaders and huge investments for the country’s growth. Any country will grow if these basics are sticked to.
Agree. China’s economy will be bigger than US in near future, because of the basics – bigger and younger population, high importance to education, political stability, visionary leaders and huge investments for the country’s growth. Any country will grow if these basics are sticked to.
This is really a loss for the US. Trump has been threatening one thing after another, while the Chinese have been calling for restraint, for months. For Trump to agree to a truce means he’s had enough punishment.
This is really a loss for the US. Trump has been threatening one thing after another, while the Chinese have been calling for restraint, for months. For Trump to agree to a truce means he’s had enough punishment.
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***Hammering out truce***
Seriously, do you guys really really believe in that kind a bull crap? C’mon people! Don’t be naive.
Laws of physic: once this ball has been dropped, it is gravity, not Xi or Trump, which dictates how far and how destructive the fall…
US-Chinese-relations is like a massive blackhole, a massive blackhole nicknamed 一山不能容二虎 therefore something massively humongous have to happen before this well ever be over…
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***Hammering out truce***
Seriously, do you guys really really believe in that kind a bull crap? C’mon people! Don’t be naive.
Laws of physic: once this ball has been dropped, it is gravity, not Xi or Trump, which dictates how far and how destructive the fall…
US-Chinese-relations is like a massive blackhole, a massive blackhole nicknamed 一山不能容二虎 therefore something massively humongous have to happen before this well ever be over…
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Vikram Reddy not true neither, US domestic manufacturing would have to layoff workers if switching to more robotic assembly and risk losing state tax credit agreement. In addition, corporate bonds need to be issued for raising investment capital. China already has injected extensive robotic assembly in car manufacturing that no countries can beat their assembly cost.
Vikram Reddy not true neither, US domestic manufacturing would have to layoff workers if switching to more robotic assembly and risk losing state tax credit agreement. In addition, corporate bonds need to be issued for raising investment capital. China already has injected extensive robotic assembly in car manufacturing that no countries can beat their assembly cost.
Or perhaps Trump is saying a prayer, while Winnie Xi Pooh is smiling, looking forward to his roast dog.
Or perhaps Trump is saying a prayer, while Winnie Xi Pooh is smiling, looking forward to his roast dog.
Well it does help (hiding your weapons) if they are v small.
Well it does help (hiding your weapons) if they are v small.
Vikram Reddy No China is ageing faster. Added in the robotics in warfare and China’s choke points in sealanes.
I’d bank on the USA for alot longer.
Vikram Reddy No China is ageing faster. Added in the robotics in warfare and China’s choke points in sealanes.
I’d bank on the USA for alot longer.
Agreed, may the folks with the larger weapons win !
Agreed, may the folks with the larger weapons win !
Oh yes, he’s had enough punishment, when the trial hasnt even started ? No he’s given Winnie Xi Pooh more time to reach compromises.
Unlike Winnie Xi Pooh Trump faces an electorate, so he will not backdown (he holds all the cards).
Oh yes, he’s had enough punishment, when the trial hasnt even started ? No he’s given Winnie Xi Pooh more time to reach compromises.
Unlike Winnie Xi Pooh Trump faces an electorate, so he will not backdown (he holds all the cards).
Our tiddly-wink friends do not believe in listening to opinions they dont agree with.
Our tiddly-wink friends do not believe in listening to opinions they dont agree with.
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Look, Sun, Xi’s posture is not what’s important to many of us here. For all I care, both can be no more but just putting up of a show in tge G-20 meet. What’s imperative is Xi should have taken cue from Vladimir and executed Vladimir’s Black Sea scroll on the US carrier group which was thumbing its nose on us, in our waters (Taiwan Straight) and survived to brag about it. Others than that, no amount of posturing in the G-20’s mean anything to those of us who, if we’re calling the shors, would have done Vladimir did.
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Look, Sun, Xi’s posture is not what’s important to many of us here. For all I care, both can be no more but just putting up of a show in tge G-20 meet. What’s imperative is Xi should have taken cue from Vladimir and executed Vladimir’s Black Sea scroll on the US carrier group which was thumbing its nose on us, in our waters (Taiwan Straight) and survived to brag about it. Others than that, no amount of posturing in the G-20’s mean anything to those of us who, if we’re calling the shors, would have done Vladimir did.
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This 90 days truce would force China to fullfill the recently suspended orders on agricultural produces from Red states. Since China wont agree on fundamental conessions on IP & partnership issues, trade war shall resume. Instead of 25% tariff, 10% shall be applied to all China imports to avoid bumping up domestic material cost & trigger RIF. China by keeping currency exchange to 1:7 shall null out the tariff effect. Status quo remains till next administration, that’s my prediction. As a result, Trump has a small win from revenue increase which is alternative form of tax increase to every American except top few %.
This 90 days truce would force China to fullfill the recently suspended orders on agricultural produces from Red states. Since China wont agree on fundamental conessions on IP & partnership issues, trade war shall resume. Instead of 25% tariff, 10% shall be applied to all China imports to avoid bumping up domestic material cost & trigger RIF. China by keeping currency exchange to 1:7 shall null out the tariff effect. Status quo remains till next administration, that’s my prediction. As a result, Trump has a small win from revenue increase which is alternative form of tax increase to every American except top few %.
Mr Xi is a nice man and sincerely offered condolences for Snr Bush passing away.
Mr Xi is a nice man and sincerely offered condolences for Snr Bush passing away.
Remember, there are TWO factions in the US pushing this "trade war". First are those who want China to buy more stuff, open up its financial markets, crack down on IP theft and technology transfers. Then there is the faction which considers China’s rise as an existential threat and are looking for ways to monkey wrench it. Trump is of the first group, and China can find a way to live with that, thereby isolating the second. Maybe. We’ll see.
Remember, there are TWO factions in the US pushing this "trade war". First are those who want China to buy more stuff, open up its financial markets, crack down on IP theft and technology transfers. Then there is the faction which considers China’s rise as an existential threat and are looking for ways to monkey wrench it. Trump is of the first group, and China can find a way to live with that, thereby isolating the second. Maybe. We’ll see.
Looking forward to Goldman fleshing out his remarks.
Looking forward to Goldman fleshing out his remarks.
Agreed. Trump has the contradictory in his mind: capitalism with socialist traits. Lol….