When US Vice President Mike Pence flew on Tuesday over the South China Sea in transit to the Association of Southeast Asian Nation (Asean) summit in Singapore, his air force plane passed within 50 miles of Chinese outposts in the contested Spratly Islands.
Upon landing at the summit, attended by regional leaders, Pence said his overflight was a type of “freedom of navigation” operation and that it was a message to China that the US “will not be intimidated” by Beijing’s warnings against US operations in areas it claims in the maritime region.
While Asean and China continue to negotiate a “code of conduct” in the disputed areas, talks that have been ongoing since 2002, President Donald Trump’s administration has made clear through toughened rhetoric and action that it won’t accept any final agreement that undermines or infringes on its interests in the area.
In recent months, the US Navy has upped the frequency of its Freedom of Navigation Operations (FONOPs) in the South China Sea. Earlier this month, for the first time, the US openly called on China to reverse its recent deployment of missiles and other advanced military assets to the area.
The South China Sea disputes were front and center at the recently concluded US-China Diplomatic and Security Dialogue in Washington, where US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis held “frank and open” discussions with China’s senior Politburo member Yang Jiechi and Defense Minister Wei Fenghe.
At the meeting, American officials “called on China to withdraw its missile systems from disputed features in the Spratly Islands, and reaffirmed that all countries should avoid addressing disputes through coercion or intimidation,” according to a Pentagon statement.

“We have continued concerns about China’s activities and militarization in the South China Sea,” Pompeo said following the dialogue. “We pressed China to live up to its past commitments [not to militarize disputed land features] in this area.”
Underscoring that message, Asean leaders today (November 15) in a joint statement raised their collective “concern” over land reclamations and activities in the South China Sea, though without naming China specifically.
The joint statement said the activities “have eroded trust and confidence, increased tensions and may undermine peace, security and stability in the region.” Significantly, the word “concern” was omitted in the joint statement during the Philippines’ chairmanship of Asean in 2017.
Back in 2015, Chinese President Xi Jinping reassured former US President Barack Obama at the White House’s Rose Garden that Beijing would not militarize its then newly-built artificial islands in the South China Sea.
“I conveyed to President Xi our significant concerns over land reclamation, construction and the militarization of disputed areas, which makes it harder for countries in the region to resolve disagreements peacefully,” Obama said back then.
The Chinese leader said then that “[r]elevant construction activity that China is undertaking in the [Spratly] Islands does not target or impact any country and there is no intention to militarize [them].”

But China’s deployment of surface-to-air missiles and anti-cruise missile systems to contested islands earlier this year have belied Xi’s promise. It wasn’t clear at first if the weapons deployments were temporary for training purposes, but America’s recent call for their removal indicates they are still in place.
During a media briefing in Singapore ahead of the Asean summit, US National Security Adviser John Bolton said, “the outcome has to be mutually acceptable, and also has to be acceptable to all the countries that have legitimate maritime and naval rights to transit and other associate rights that we don’t want to see infringed.”
Mattis, meanwhile, made it clear during his visit to Singapore on November 9 that Washington will continue, “to fly, sail and operate wherever international law allows and our national interests demand,” and declared the US “cannot accept the [China’s] militarization of the South China Sea or any coercion in this region.”
In effect, the US is pressuring Asean against acquiescing to Beijing through a compromised code of conduct agreement that bolsters China’s maritime power while acknowledging its wide-reaching claims to the sea. Beijing’s “nine-dash line” map encircles 90% of the South China Sea as Chinese territory.
This marks a major departure from Washington’s traditional policy, where it has broadly supported the regional grouping’s efforts to tame China’s maritime ambitions through diplomatic engagement and negotiations. In contrast, under Trump’s more muscular policy, Washington is now pressuring Asean to stand up to China or get out of the way.

Asean’s joint statement “emphasized the importance of non-militarization and self-restraint in the conduct of all activities by claimants and all other states” that “could further complicate the situation and escalate tensions in the South China Sea.”
It also reaffirmed a shared commitment to “maintaining and promoting peace, security and stability in the region.
But Washington is now openly inserting itself into the center of ongoing efforts to shape the rules in one of the world’s most important sea lanes, through which as much as US$5 trillion worth of trade flows each year.
The US’ increasing diplomatic assertiveness is partly driven by deepening frustrations over the prolonged negotiations of a code of conduct, a process that formally began almost two decades ago without any major breakthrough to date.
Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte, whose nation will oversee the negotiations as the new Asean-China country coordinator, aimed to reassured critics by stating, “The Philippines is prepared to do its part. We are committed to work with all concerned parties in the substantive negotiations and early conclusion of an effective code of conduct.”
At the same time, the Filipino president has been criticized for his China-friendly policies, including his refusal to invoke The Hague’s Permanent Court of Arbitration’s 2016 ruling against China’s South China Sea claims vis-à-vis the Philippines.
The original intent behind the negotiation of a code of conduct was to place constraints on claimant states’ unilateral efforts to challenge the status quo and impose their will at the expense of regional security and international law.

In recent years, however, China has dragged its feet in the code of conduct negotiations, while changing the facts on the ground by reclaiming contested islands and now placing anti-missile systems on them.
There is thus growing suspicion across the region and beyond that China is using the code of conduct negotiations as diplomatic cover for its unilateral alteration of the maritime status quo at the expense of smaller claimant states, as well as external powers such the US which have enjoyed unimpeded access to the sea for the past seven decades.
During a November 13 speech ahead of the Asean summit, Chinese Premier Li Keqiang said his country hopes the ongoing negotiations between Asean and China “will be finished in three years’ time” – making it clear that Beijing is in no rush to enter any binding multilateral agreement anytime soon.
Earlier this year, Asean and China declared amid much fanfare that they had concluded a “single draft” for a code of conduct in the South China Sea, raising hopes of a near-term conclusion of the decades-long negotiations.
During the talks, however, China controversially proposed that Southeast Asian states must cease naval exercises and military cooperation with external powers, particularly the US and Japan, in the South China Sea.
Chinese negotiators also called on claimant states to develop hydrocarbon resources in the area jointly, with minimal participation from external players.
But while Beijing’s proposals were a deliberate bid to box out external powers from the South China Sea, Washington has made it clear that it won’t sit by idly to China’s efforts to dominate the strategic waters.

We created incidents to get ourselves into a war with Vietnam. After 8 years of war, 58,000 deaths, hundreds of thousands crippled for life, we had to negotiate our way out of Vietnam, and Vietnam had no way to attack America’s homeland. A war with China will be a hundred times worse. China CAN ATTACK America’s homeland with DF-41,DF-5B, DF-ZF,…!!! Chances are excellent that we will lose to China. China has future weapons, i.e., hypersonic weapons, railgun, which we tried and tried for many many years but can’t get it to work, laser weapons,… while we still brag about our world war 2 weapons, i.e., B-52s, aircraft carriers, Naval ships at 45 knots an hour,… Our weapons cannot get away from today’s missiles.
If you "throw down" or even "lay down" the gauntlet, it’s a challenge. To "drop" means let fall, abandon, discard.
If you "throw down" or even "lay down" the gauntlet, it’s a challenge. To "drop" means let fall, abandon, discard.
China has stolen other countries territory and built military bases their , you should the world how hostile China is .China has decided to be the world’s enemy, their will be consequences.
The only way to settle the South China Sea problem will be war, and China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi already said: "Giving up on the South China Sea will be a shame to their ancestors". China wil fight for the South China Sea. Are we ready to send our young men and women to fight and die in the South China Sea?
The only way to settle the South China Sea problem will be war, and China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi already said: "Giving up on the South China Sea will be a shame to their ancestors". China wil fight for the South China Sea. Are we ready to send our young men and women to fight and die in the South China Sea?
Thomas Daniel Kuhn ==Is Winnie the pooh Xi mad ? Has president Trump taken Xi pooh’s honey?
Thomas Daniel Kuhn ==Is Winnie the pooh Xi mad ? Has president Trump taken Xi pooh’s honey?
Sees=Sure President Trump is shaking in his shoes from the mighty Chinese, your funny.
Sees=Sure President Trump is shaking in his shoes from the mighty Chinese, your funny.
No The deafening silence shows that China has had enough and is now preparing for the fight to come. No more negotiations, no more bluster, no more threats, just get ready to start swinging. Xi said so. Putin said so. When guys are arguing in a bar there is no worry about it being a fight, it`s when they stop talking and look each other in the eye, that you can expect the fists to fly. Nations are the same. So long as the US is blustering and threatening there is no danget, but when both China and the US stop talking thats when the killing will get under way. I wonder how the US is going to react to three or four of it`s aircraft carriers hitting the bottom of the sea in the first couple of hours? And how the Chinese are going to react after the first Chinese city has been hit by a missile? This will get ugly and ugly fast. The US will suffer it`s first loss of it`s cities in more than 100 years. How will, the American citizen`s take that result? And then there is Russia. It has the best weapons systems in the world and for sure will supply China with everything it needs for the fight. One question , will Russia and China allow the US to take a month or two to amass the troops and equipment to mount an attack. This is not Iraq, and or Afghanistan we are talking about here. And the US will not dare take on both super powers at the same time. It is going to get really interesting and really fast at that.
To get a little better perspective about the US prospects, read todays article in the "D Brief" . They are pretty sure the US would lose such a war. And thats what the Pentagon is telling Congress while we write about this.
No The deafening silence shows that China has had enough and is now preparing for the fight to come. No more negotiations, no more bluster, no more threats, just get ready to start swinging. Xi said so. Putin said so. When guys are arguing in a bar there is no worry about it being a fight, it`s when they stop talking and look each other in the eye, that you can expect the fists to fly. Nations are the same. So long as the US is blustering and threatening there is no danget, but when both China and the US stop talking thats when the killing will get under way. I wonder how the US is going to react to three or four of it`s aircraft carriers hitting the bottom of the sea in the first couple of hours? And how the Chinese are going to react after the first Chinese city has been hit by a missile? This will get ugly and ugly fast. The US will suffer it`s first loss of it`s cities in more than 100 years. How will, the American citizen`s take that result? And then there is Russia. It has the best weapons systems in the world and for sure will supply China with everything it needs for the fight. One question , will Russia and China allow the US to take a month or two to amass the troops and equipment to mount an attack. This is not Iraq, and or Afghanistan we are talking about here. And the US will not dare take on both super powers at the same time. It is going to get really interesting and really fast at that.
To get a little better perspective about the US prospects, read todays article in the "D Brief" . They are pretty sure the US would lose such a war. And thats what the Pentagon is telling Congress while we write about this.
Yashad Rizvi wow still with the "weapons" talk? like i said you need to get it out of your system, if you dont like orientals maybe the bigger gweilos will satisfy you. well I prefer Italian and Chinese personally. Girls that is.
Yashad Rizvi wow still with the "weapons" talk? like i said you need to get it out of your system, if you dont like orientals maybe the bigger gweilos will satisfy you. well I prefer Italian and Chinese personally. Girls that is.
Ask the Viet, Malay, Indons, SK, Japs who they prefer, the US or China.
But I guess they dont let you out of your cubicle in Peking much.
Ask the Viet, Malay, Indons, SK, Japs who they prefer, the US or China.
But I guess they dont let you out of your cubicle in Peking much.
But they can’t sail to GOM, thats the point while the US can, and China can only watch impotently.
But they can’t sail to GOM, thats the point while the US can, and China can only watch impotently.
Jack Chan Yes, they do like something bigger, are you missing out, they do seem to prefer Gweilos ! Does Winnie Xi Pooh make you feel bigger and more important.
Jack Chan Yes, they do like something bigger, are you missing out, they do seem to prefer Gweilos ! Does Winnie Xi Pooh make you feel bigger and more important.