It was packaged as a stark, graphic message, echoing across Eurasia: Presidents Erdogan and Putin, in a packed hall in Istanbul on Monday, surrounded by notables, celebrating completion of the 930 kilometer-long offshore section of the TurkStream gas pipeline across the bottom of the Black Sea.
This is no less than a key landmark in that fraught terrain I named ‘Pipelineistan’ in the early 2000s. It was built by Gazprom in only two and a half years despite facing massive pressure from Washington, which had already managed to derail TurkStream’s predecessor, South Stream.
TurkStream is projected as two lines, each capable of delivering 15.75 billion cubic meters of gas a year. The first will supply the Turkish market. The second will run 180 km to Turkey’s western borderlands and supply south and southeast Europe, with first deliveries expected by the end of next year. Potential customers include Greece, Italy, Bulgaria, Serbia and Hungary.
Call it the Gazprom double down. Nord Stream 1 and 2 supply northern Europe while TurkStream supplies southern Europe. Pipelines are steel umbilical cords. They represent liquid connectivity at its best while conclusively decreasing risks of geopolitical friction.
Turkey is already being supplied by Russian gas via Blue Stream and the Trans-Balkan pipeline. Significantly, Turkey is Gazprom’s second largest export market after China.
Erdogan’s speech, strenuously emphasizing the benefits of Turkey’s energy security, was played and replayed all across a rainy, ultra-congested Istanbul. To witness this geopolitical and geoeconomic breakthrough was particularly enlightening, as I was deep into discussing Turkish geopolitics with members of the progressive Turkish Left.
Even the opposition to what in Europe is routinely defined as Erdogan’s brand of “Asian illiberalism” concedes Turkey-Russia trade connectivity – in energy, in the military domain via the sale of the S-400 missile system, in the building of nuclear power plants – has been conducted with consummate skill by Erdogan, who is always careful to send direct and indirect messages to Washington that Turkish national interests will not be compromised.
The big prize: leading Islam
Now juxtapose this developing entente cordiale between the Bear and the (aspiring) Sultan with the gripping drama in Istanbul. Ibrahim Karagul – never afraid to apply a Rabelais touch – is always useful as a mirror reflecting the state of play of AKP circles around Erdogan.
For this political elite, a breakthrough in the Erdogan-conducted “Death By a Thousand Leaks” is imminent, allegedly proving that Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) directly gave the order for the killing and slaying of Jamal Khashoggi.
The consensus among the AKP leadership – confirmed by independent Left academics – is that the US-Israel-House of Saud-UAE axis is deep in negotiations to extricate MBS from any culpability.
That includes key items in the hefty Erdogan “package” dangled to the axis to essentially buy Ankara’s silence – an end of the Saudi blockade on Qatar and the extradition of Fetullah Gulen, described across the Turkish political spectrum as the leader of FETO (the Fetullah Terrorist Organization).
The Kremlin and the Russian Foreign Ministry are very much aware that the high-stakes game goes way beyond ‘Pulp Fiction’ in Istanbul and the Astana peace process on Syria – carefully micro-managed by both Putin and Erdogan alongside Iran’s Rouhani. The big prize is no less than the leadership of the Islamic world.
There is nowhere better than a few stops in select landmarks of Ottoman imperial power, or a lively conversation at Istanbul’s Old Book Bazaar, to be reminded that this was the seat of the Islamic Umma for centuries – a role usurped by those Arabian desert upstarts.
Alastair Cooke has captured with perfection the House of Saud’s close involvement in the slaying of Khashoggi and how this raises questions about Saudi Arabia’s status as “no more than an inept Custodian of Mecca and Medina”. This is indeed splashed all over the – Erdogan-aligned – Turkish media. And Cooke notes how this status “would strip the Gulf of much of its significance and value to Washington”.
My ongoing conversations with progressive, Kemalist Turkish academics – yes, they are a minority – have unveiled a fascinating process. The Erdogan machine has sensed a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to simultaneously bury the House of Saud’s shaky Islamic credibility while solidifying Turkish neo-Ottomanism, but with an Ikhwan framework.
And that’s the rationale behind Erdogan and Turkish media relentlessly denouncing what is interpreted as a plot concocted by MBZ (MBS’s puppet master), Tel Aviv and the Trump administration.
No one can possibly advance the endgame. But that carries the strong possibility of a dominant, Erdogan-led Turkey all across the lands of Islam, allied with Qatar and also with Iran. Plus all of the above enjoying very close geopolitical and economic relations with Russia. Expect major fireworks ahead.
Why China is silent on Myanmar Rohyanga issue
Because China itself is suppressing it’s Uighar Muslim minority
Because China itself is suppressing it’s Uighar Muslim minority
WOW… Exciting posibilities…
WOW… Exciting posibilities…
Good article
Good article
Pepe isn’t using the term Ikhwan accurately here as they were Ibn Saud’s equivilant of ISIS/al Qaeda rolled into one and share no semblance to what Erdogan is accomplishing. Ibn Saud ended up machine gunning down his Ikhwan in 1927 at a banquet and there is nothing Ikhwaesque about Erdogan. This 3rd Saudi State has been trying to do what Erdogan and the Kemalists have been pursuing since WWI, the re-unification of the Islamic/Ottoman Empire. The only difference is they are not secular, but Islamic; specifically the Shiite/Sufi Brotherhood, the antithesis of the Wahhabi who hailed from Nadj, which the Prophet declared to be "The Horn of Satan." An accurate call if I ever heard one. America’s problem is we’ve been on the wrong side and the losing side I might add, compliments of the Wahhabi partners in crime, the Sayeret Matkal.
Pepe isn’t using the term Ikhwan accurately here as they were Ibn Saud’s equivilant of ISIS/al Qaeda rolled into one and share no semblance to what Erdogan is accomplishing. Ibn Saud ended up machine gunning down his Ikhwan in 1927 at a banquet and there is nothing Ikhwaesque about Erdogan. This 3rd Saudi State has been trying to do what Erdogan and the Kemalists have been pursuing since WWI, the re-unification of the Islamic/Ottoman Empire. The only difference is they are not secular, but Islamic; specifically the Shiite/Sufi Brotherhood, the antithesis of the Wahhabi who hailed from Nadj, which the Prophet declared to be "The Horn of Satan." An accurate call if I ever heard one. America’s problem is we’ve been on the wrong side and the losing side I might add, compliments of the Wahhabi partners in crime, the Sayeret Matkal.
Pepe isn’t using the term Ikhwan accurately here as they were Ibn Saud’s equivilant of ISIS/al Qaeda rolled into one and share no semblance to what Erdogan is accomplishing. Ibn Saud ended up machine gunning down his Ikhwan in 1927 at a banquet and there is nothing Ikhwaesque about Erdogan. This 3rd Saudi State has been trying to do what Erdogan and the Kemalists have been pursuing since WWI, the re-unification of the Islamic/Ottoman Empire. The only difference is they are not secular, but Islamic; specifically the Shiite/Sufi Brotherhood, the antithesis of the Wahhabi who hailed from Nadj, which the Prophet declared to be "The Horn of Satan." An accurate call if I ever heard one. America’s problem is we’ve been on the wrong side and the losing side I might add, compliments of the Wahhabi partners in crime, the Sayeret Matkal.
Pepe isn’t using the term Ikhwan accurately here as they were Ibn Saud’s equivilant of ISIS/al Qaeda rolled into one and share no semblance to what Erdogan is accomplishing. Ibn Saud ended up machine gunning down his Ikhwan in 1927 at a banquet and there is nothing Ikhwaesque about Erdogan. This 3rd Saudi State has been trying to do what Erdogan and the Kemalists have been pursuing since WWI, the re-unification of the Islamic/Ottoman Empire. The only difference is they are not secular, but Islamic; specifically the Shiite/Sufi Brotherhood, the antithesis of the Wahhabi who hailed from Nadj, which the Prophet declared to be "The Horn of Satan." An accurate call if I ever heard one. America’s problem is we’ve been on the wrong side and the losing side I might add, compliments of the Wahhabi partners in crime, the Sayeret Matkal.
Maqsood Ahmed Kayani Comrade, China’s Mohammedans are better off than ethnic Chinese in Malaysia & Indonesia.
Maqsood Ahmed Kayani Comrade, China’s Mohammedans are better off than ethnic Chinese in Malaysia & Indonesia.
When will Pepe address women’s right in Iran & Turkey ?
When will Pepe address women’s right in Iran & Turkey ?
Joeseph Stalin Comrade, you were never squeamish when it came to murdering people, were you ?
Joeseph Stalin Comrade, you were never squeamish when it came to murdering people, were you ?
Nurun Nabi China took Eastern Turkistan unlawfully, they had 3 wars against the Muslim Uighur Turks who had only a population of 10 million, these Turks had won 2 times, but then the British financed the Chinese, and the Russians trained and provided weapons to the Chinese, and on the 3rd attempt, Eastern Turkistan fell.. all for the oil… Tibet is more popular, everyone says "Free Tibet" and no one has even heard of "Easten Turkistan" to say "Free Eastern Turkistan and the uighur Turks"
Nurun Nabi China took Eastern Turkistan unlawfully, they had 3 wars against the Muslim Uighur Turks who had only a population of 10 million, these Turks had won 2 times, but then the British financed the Chinese, and the Russians trained and provided weapons to the Chinese, and on the 3rd attempt, Eastern Turkistan fell.. all for the oil… Tibet is more popular, everyone says "Free Tibet" and no one has even heard of "Easten Turkistan" to say "Free Eastern Turkistan and the uighur Turks"
In Turkey women have more rights than men, that is why Turkish men bribe their wives to stay home, they buy new kitchen, new furniture every year, and women do not wear the same clothes to a party until several months pass… Ataturk gave women their rights long before Europe did, it actually originates from Mohammed’s Islam (he was an Ishmaelite, not Arab), but as you know, majority or Arabs are practicing Sunnism more than they practice Islam (they are 2 different systems).. The first female FIGHTER pilot in the world was a Turkish Woman, Ataturk’s adopted daughter
Women’s right to vote:
France 1944
Japan 1945
Italy 1946
China 1947
Switzerland 1971
Kuwait 2005
TURKEY 1930, forced by decree,
~ Mustafa Kemal, The ATATURK~
"In Turkish society, women have not lagged behind men in science, scholarship, and culture. Perhaps they have even gone further ahead"
“Everything we see in the world is the creative work of women.”
“Teachers are the one and only people who save nations.”
“Human kind is made up of two sexes, women and men. Is it possible that a mass is improved by the improvement of only one part and the other part is ignored? Is it possible that if half of a mass is tied to earth with chains and the other half can soar into skies?”
“The biggest battle is the war against ignorance.”
― Mustafa Kemal Ataturk
In Turkey women have more rights than men, that is why Turkish men bribe their wives to stay home, they buy new kitchen, new furniture every year, and women do not wear the same clothes to a party until several months pass… Ataturk gave women their rights long before Europe did, it actually originates from Mohammed’s Islam (he was an Ishmaelite, not Arab), but as you know, majority or Arabs are practicing Sunnism more than they practice Islam (they are 2 different systems).. The first female FIGHTER pilot in the world was a Turkish Woman, Ataturk’s adopted daughter
Women’s right to vote:
France 1944
Japan 1945
Italy 1946
China 1947
Switzerland 1971
Kuwait 2005
TURKEY 1930, forced by decree,
~ Mustafa Kemal, The ATATURK~
"In Turkish society, women have not lagged behind men in science, scholarship, and culture. Perhaps they have even gone further ahead"
“Everything we see in the world is the creative work of women.”
“Teachers are the one and only people who save nations.”
“Human kind is made up of two sexes, women and men. Is it possible that a mass is improved by the improvement of only one part and the other part is ignored? Is it possible that if half of a mass is tied to earth with chains and the other half can soar into skies?”
“The biggest battle is the war against ignorance.”
― Mustafa Kemal Ataturk
Ozgur Celik But how long, comrade, before Erdogan erodes those rights ? Do you know if women wearing short shirts are harrassed ?
Ozgur Celik But how long, comrade, before Erdogan erodes those rights ? Do you know if women wearing short shirts are harrassed ?
Winston Medved Winston Medved Erdogan is part of Ataturk’s 1927 plan for Turan Union..
“Not long before the 100th year of the Turkish Republic (2023), there will be some groups that will merge together creating a conspiracy that we (Turks) are the enemy of religion as secularists, they are going to succeed at getting the votes of the feeble minded and come to power, but after coming to power, there will be a power struggle and they will turn on each other” 17 December 1927
(Sound familiar? President Erdogan and Fethullah Gulen and the military coup) 🙂
“One day, after the great wars, the fake enslaved colony nations of the Middle East’s (French Syria, British Iraq, Lebanon etc) people are going to rise up and revolt. When that day comes, our New Turkish Republic’s Ruling elite will side not with them, but will instead side with the Imperialist powers that be, and find themselves enslaved as well, and in their battle for their freedom, the Turkish people will teach them an inordinate lesson together with the Turkic nations around the 7 corners of the world and fight for everyone’s rights to freedom”
~Mustafa Kemal, The Ataturk ~
7 corners = (Fall of Communism in Russia 1991) Now there is Cyprus Republic 1974 (Unrecognized), Kazakhstan, Kyrgizstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, and Turkey 1923..
If it wasn’t Erdogan, it was going to be someone else, the script has been written… Now, there are also 4 Million Syrian refugees being helped by Turkey, the Entire Islamic world is to be helped once again, but bigger with Turan union of 40+ Turkic tribes (A Trade Empire)
Ataturk had a dream that the Ottoman Empire became a Republic, and when Turkey got Electricity, communication devices became wireless and phones fit into the ear (Todays Mobile Phones) This dream became a Turkish Movie by the way..
Also, Know this…
In Jewish faith, it is forbidden for Semite Jews to have a nation until the 50th and last Prophet has been accepted, Mehmed (The Mohammed in Arabic), they were to have 2 nations, 1 called Ishmael, the other called Israel..
They were unable to accept Mohammed because because they didn’t accept the 49th Prophet Jesus, because Romans threatened genocide against them if they did, as Jesus was against Roman Rule and fought them (Bible is not Jesus’s book, Roman Paul rewrote it peacefully to crush Jesus’s rebellion)
However, one of the Turko-Mongol tribes known as the Khazar, built an empire near Turkey, on Azerbaijan and Armenia, known as the Khazar Empire and ruled over the Jews… Then they converted to the Jewish faith afterwards, giving Semite Jews their first nation without accepting 49th and 50th Prophets
Then by 1947, the Modern day Khazar created Israel, 16% of Israel is Turk, that’s more than the 8% in Turkey, of which, only carry 4.9% actual Altaic DNA in Turkey, that’s why Turks in Turkey are a majority 38% European looking, 35% Middle eastern..
My point is, Israel has a 3rd group, The European Jews, West Russia etc, who are Zionists and support the Turkic Khazar Idea of having a nation going against the Semite Jews faith..
Israel is also part of Future Turan Union, as it’s a Turkic nation too..
Erdogan is not going to go against Israel or Ataturk’s foundation, he’s just playing the bad cop as it says so in the script..
Winston Medved Winston Medved Erdogan is part of Ataturk’s 1927 plan for Turan Union..
“Not long before the 100th year of the Turkish Republic (2023), there will be some groups that will merge together creating a conspiracy that we (Turks) are the enemy of religion as secularists, they are going to succeed at getting the votes of the feeble minded and come to power, but after coming to power, there will be a power struggle and they will turn on each other” 17 December 1927
(Sound familiar? President Erdogan and Fethullah Gulen and the military coup) 🙂
“One day, after the great wars, the fake enslaved colony nations of the Middle East’s (French Syria, British Iraq, Lebanon etc) people are going to rise up and revolt. When that day comes, our New Turkish Republic’s Ruling elite will side not with them, but will instead side with the Imperialist powers that be, and find themselves enslaved as well, and in their battle for their freedom, the Turkish people will teach them an inordinate lesson together with the Turkic nations around the 7 corners of the world and fight for everyone’s rights to freedom”
~Mustafa Kemal, The Ataturk ~
7 corners = (Fall of Communism in Russia 1991) Now there is Cyprus Republic 1974 (Unrecognized), Kazakhstan, Kyrgizstan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, and Turkey 1923..
If it wasn’t Erdogan, it was going to be someone else, the script has been written… Now, there are also 4 Million Syrian refugees being helped by Turkey, the Entire Islamic world is to be helped once again, but bigger with Turan union of 40+ Turkic tribes (A Trade Empire)
Ataturk had a dream that the Ottoman Empire became a Republic, and when Turkey got Electricity, communication devices became wireless and phones fit into the ear (Todays Mobile Phones) This dream became a Turkish Movie by the way..
Also, Know this…
In Jewish faith, it is forbidden for Semite Jews to have a nation until the 50th and last Prophet has been accepted, Mehmed (The Mohammed in Arabic), they were to have 2 nations, 1 called Ishmael, the other called Israel..
They were unable to accept Mohammed because because they didn’t accept the 49th Prophet Jesus, because Romans threatened genocide against them if they did, as Jesus was against Roman Rule and fought them (Bible is not Jesus’s book, Roman Paul rewrote it peacefully to crush Jesus’s rebellion)
However, one of the Turko-Mongol tribes known as the Khazar, built an empire near Turkey, on Azerbaijan and Armenia, known as the Khazar Empire and ruled over the Jews… Then they converted to the Jewish faith afterwards, giving Semite Jews their first nation without accepting 49th and 50th Prophets
Then by 1947, the Modern day Khazar created Israel, 16% of Israel is Turk, that’s more than the 8% in Turkey, of which, only carry 4.9% actual Altaic DNA in Turkey, that’s why Turks in Turkey are a majority 38% European looking, 35% Middle eastern..
My point is, Israel has a 3rd group, The European Jews, West Russia etc, who are Zionists and support the Turkic Khazar Idea of having a nation going against the Semite Jews faith..
Israel is also part of Future Turan Union, as it’s a Turkic nation too..
Erdogan is not going to go against Israel or Ataturk’s foundation, he’s just playing the bad cop as it says so in the script..
Winston Medved ~
About womens harrassment..
Turkish democracy :
There are laws which govern the people, but in Turkey these laws are never enforced until there is a serious problem.. and usually the people enforce them when not serious..
What happens in the western world? well, something happens, you have to call the police, the police man and Police woman come, they arrest the bad guy.. If a civilian acts as a policeman, they arrest him too..
But Turkish people are called "Zombies" by the French, because they have the "Bee Hive" mind…
If a woman gets harrassed, the Bad guy will be grabbed by the arms by the people like grorilla’s grabbing a Chimpanzee, and rip him apart, all the people will signal eachother like Bees and like Zombies will be united as one single unit and lynch the bad guy on the spot.. the police will arrive, but will do nothing, 50 of them (police) is not enough to stop the will of the people from breaking the laws.. they are Judge, Jury, and executioner.. That’s Turkish Democracy..
If such a crowd needs to be stopped, then the Military police siding with the Leftist Kemalists will be needed.. the left can never be conquered.. To please the EU the military doesn’t dictate Democracy anymore, their powers on paper have been stripped by Erdogan, but this doesn’t mean that the military can’t disobey, they can, the nation was founded by Army, and unlike other countries where the military and the people don’t get along, the Turkish people love the military and is expected to defy everyone that goes against turkish national interests..
You need to becareful a woman don’t steal your sperm, she might have your baby and you have to pay child support, abortion is allowed, but only if both parents agree to it, women have more rights than men, Men jump off Istanbul bridge when in Financial trouble, Youtube shows it.
Winston Medved ~
About womens harrassment..
Turkish democracy :
There are laws which govern the people, but in Turkey these laws are never enforced until there is a serious problem.. and usually the people enforce them when not serious..
What happens in the western world? well, something happens, you have to call the police, the police man and Police woman come, they arrest the bad guy.. If a civilian acts as a policeman, they arrest him too..
But Turkish people are called "Zombies" by the French, because they have the "Bee Hive" mind…
If a woman gets harrassed, the Bad guy will be grabbed by the arms by the people like grorilla’s grabbing a Chimpanzee, and rip him apart, all the people will signal eachother like Bees and like Zombies will be united as one single unit and lynch the bad guy on the spot.. the police will arrive, but will do nothing, 50 of them (police) is not enough to stop the will of the people from breaking the laws.. they are Judge, Jury, and executioner.. That’s Turkish Democracy..
If such a crowd needs to be stopped, then the Military police siding with the Leftist Kemalists will be needed.. the left can never be conquered.. To please the EU the military doesn’t dictate Democracy anymore, their powers on paper have been stripped by Erdogan, but this doesn’t mean that the military can’t disobey, they can, the nation was founded by Army, and unlike other countries where the military and the people don’t get along, the Turkish people love the military and is expected to defy everyone that goes against turkish national interests..
You need to becareful a woman don’t steal your sperm, she might have your baby and you have to pay child support, abortion is allowed, but only if both parents agree to it, women have more rights than men, Men jump off Istanbul bridge when in Financial trouble, Youtube shows it.
Can’t listen to a tape but can watch videos of the aftermath of Syrian children that were gassed…
Can’t listen to a tape but can watch videos of the aftermath of Syrian children that were gassed…
Ozgur Celik Malaya has Wind-Breaking Rumbler, Pak the sad nutty professor in the US, China has Lawrence (spelled badly) and now the Turks have their own awful Ottoman
What is it with Asia Times, attracting so many looneys
Ozgur Celik Malaya has Wind-Breaking Rumbler, Pak the sad nutty professor in the US, China has Lawrence (spelled badly) and now the Turks have their own awful Ottoman
What is it with Asia Times, attracting so many looneys
Ozgur Celik Ozgur Celik Malaya has Wind-Breaking Rumbler, Pak the sad nutty professor in the US, China has Lawrence (spelled badly) and now the Turks have their own awful Ottoman
What is it with Asia Times, attracting so many looneys
Ozgur Celik Ozgur Celik Malaya has Wind-Breaking Rumbler, Pak the sad nutty professor in the US, China has Lawrence (spelled badly) and now the Turks have their own awful Ottoman
What is it with Asia Times, attracting so many looneys
Ozgur Celik Oh great, I’ll let all the Wumao on these sites know you reckon the Uighurs want to be united with the Turks.
Personally I reckon Turkey should annex all the Kurdish lands and then rename the place Turdy… but I suppose KSA is already clled that.
Did you know that in 50yrs there wont be a Turkish State, the Kurds are outbreeding you.
Ozgur Celik Oh great, I’ll let all the Wumao on these sites know you reckon the Uighurs want to be united with the Turks.
Personally I reckon Turkey should annex all the Kurdish lands and then rename the place Turdy… but I suppose KSA is already clled that.
Did you know that in 50yrs there wont be a Turkish State, the Kurds are outbreeding you.
Yashad Rizvi wrong, Kurds created Turkey, Mustafa Ismet Inonu was a Kurd, Ataturk’s right hand man, Ataturk had asked the Kurds if they wanted to join Turkey and be equal through citizenship, because "The Ottoman Empire was multi cultural for world conquest, the Republic of Turkey is not, for it’s survival" The Kurds accepted Ataturk’s proposal.. Ataturk managed to take north Syria and Iraq from the invaders, and then gifted the lands back to Syria and Iraq, with the condition that they not lose the lands to a Greater Armenia under the guise of a Kurdistan, otherwise Turkey gets to take the lands back.. 1926 Treaty of Ankara, and 1921 Ankara Treaty.. Also your comment about Kurds outnumbering, well General Ismet said that it doesn’t matter if outnumbered, wars can still be won, Turks fought against the world… The thing with Kurds today is that they are very ignorant and don’t go to school and get educated, they don’t allow their women to leave the house too.. Turan Union is coming.. if Turks lose to Kurds, then Kurds can conquer Europe, because the Turkish Military is no.1 in Europe, 2nd in NATO because USA is in it, USA however has not enough experience on the ground and doesn’t have warrior tradition stemming back to the dawn of time when Australian Aboriginals gave birth to the Turks since they bred with non human Neanderthals.
Yashad Rizvi wrong, Kurds created Turkey, Mustafa Ismet Inonu was a Kurd, Ataturk’s right hand man, Ataturk had asked the Kurds if they wanted to join Turkey and be equal through citizenship, because "The Ottoman Empire was multi cultural for world conquest, the Republic of Turkey is not, for it’s survival" The Kurds accepted Ataturk’s proposal.. Ataturk managed to take north Syria and Iraq from the invaders, and then gifted the lands back to Syria and Iraq, with the condition that they not lose the lands to a Greater Armenia under the guise of a Kurdistan, otherwise Turkey gets to take the lands back.. 1926 Treaty of Ankara, and 1921 Ankara Treaty.. Also your comment about Kurds outnumbering, well General Ismet said that it doesn’t matter if outnumbered, wars can still be won, Turks fought against the world… The thing with Kurds today is that they are very ignorant and don’t go to school and get educated, they don’t allow their women to leave the house too.. Turan Union is coming.. if Turks lose to Kurds, then Kurds can conquer Europe, because the Turkish Military is no.1 in Europe, 2nd in NATO because USA is in it, USA however has not enough experience on the ground and doesn’t have warrior tradition stemming back to the dawn of time when Australian Aboriginals gave birth to the Turks since they bred with non human Neanderthals.
A Wumao (5 jiao – not 5 hairs) is a person who is ’employed’ by the central gov’t to troll forums (English and Chinese) looking for topics that put China and the Chinese people in a bad light (i.e ‘hurts the feelings of China’).
A Wumao (5 jiao – not 5 hairs) is a person who is ’employed’ by the central gov’t to troll forums (English and Chinese) looking for topics that put China and the Chinese people in a bad light (i.e ‘hurts the feelings of China’).
Ozgur Celik Your army might be largest in Europe, but easily last in efficiency, esp after so many officers have been culled by Erdogan.
As for Ataturk, well he’d be turning in his grave, Erdogan and you quoting the pedo’ prophet. Ataturk hated Islam.
Turkey’s economy is in the poop, Erdogan’s boom was a mirage. As for the Kurds, well another day. Except to say Turkish genes make up 5% of todays Anatolia, the rest of them are ancient Hitites, Greeks, etc.
Ozgur Celik Your army might be largest in Europe, but easily last in efficiency, esp after so many officers have been culled by Erdogan.
As for Ataturk, well he’d be turning in his grave, Erdogan and you quoting the pedo’ prophet. Ataturk hated Islam.
Turkey’s economy is in the poop, Erdogan’s boom was a mirage. As for the Kurds, well another day. Except to say Turkish genes make up 5% of todays Anatolia, the rest of them are ancient Hitites, Greeks, etc.
Ozgur Celik
http://www.atimes.com/article/turkish-police-tear-gas-women-marching-against-violence/
Ozgur Celik
http://www.atimes.com/article/turkish-police-tear-gas-women-marching-against-violence/